Anyone here have a SNACH charging handle?

I recently ran across this charging handle from Griffin Armament and was wondering if any members here had any experience with it. It looks similar to a Raptor & the price is inline with them. It is supposed to mitigate the ‘gas the to face’ issue when shooting suppressed. It is also available with different
sized latches.
I’ve seen where GA has collaborated in the past with ADM to manufacture other similar charging handles and was curious if this is one of them & if it works as advertised.

TIA

http://www.griffinarmament.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=37750

It looks interesting. That looks like a vent hole in the side of it. I recall reading somewhere a while back (possibly on TOS) where someone had drilled a small vent hole in the side of their charging handle to vent gas when suppressed. IIRC they claimed it worked well, but I always wondered if it would have any negative impact on the strength of the charging handle. Not to mention the gas will be directed straight into your face more than ever when shooting left handed.

ETA: Here it is:

https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=348912

While I was searching for that I stumbled onto this, which I’ve never seen before.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/22/gear-review-armageddon-tactical-gms-15-ar-ambi-charging-handle/

I just installed the SNATCH in my AR but have not shot it yet. I shoot left handed and run a AAC m42000. I’ll report back once I get to the range.

I’ll be very curious to hear what you think about it.

Hmm, seems interesting.
Griffin makes solid stuff. The owners are good guys. Damn AR parts evolution is gonna bankrupt me.

Being a lefty also, I’ll be interested to hear about the gas coming from the vent hole.

I have one and i’m left-handed. I don’t shoot suppressed though. No problem shooting lefty NTCH - i didn’t notice any difference between the SNACH and any other non-vented charging handle unsuppressed.
I’m interesting in hearing lefties findings shooting with a can, and whether it actually makes it worse.

Have you done a review of it on your website? I looked & didn’t see one.

Also, would you say it’s fairly comparable to the Raptor?

The Raptors seem to work better for me than the BCM CHs when shooting suppressed. So if the overall design is similar, I may just bite the bullet & pick one up. The fact that it has a gas vent can only help matters, IMO, but I shoot righty.

Interesting. This is the first I’ve heard of the snach. No plans on swapping out my BCMs or Raptors but, it’s nice to see innovation and competition in design.

I like my Raptor, but the Armageddon Tactical looks like an option for my upcoming .308 build.

Somewhat along these lines, whatever happened to the SSS AR Gas Vent that was essentially a 90o exhaust duct for suppressed use? Did these ever work right?

Would a good combination use both the Gas Vent, and a ventilated charging handle?

i haven’t had a chance to put it up yet - wanted to use it for a while before writing about it. yes, i’d say that both are comparable. it probably boils down to cosmetic preference and maybe handle/latch feel.

I remember that post. by the way, here’s another vented charging handle design shown in the form of Vltor’s pending patent:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20130092014.pdf

Any updates to lefties using the GA SNACH?

If you’re not shooting suppressed, then there’s no difference between the SN-ACH and a regular charging handle. I would not use it if you were a lefty and shooting suppressed. Since I’m not shooting suppressed, it works just fine - like a Raptor, BCM ambi etc.

Yep, lefty shooting suppressed. Thanks for the feedback.

My buddy swears by the products they make. Surprised they have a charging handle that looks like that… I don’t think I’ve seen anything from KAC that looks like that.

So shooting lefty and suppressed I don’t notice a big difference between the the snatch and the BCM ambi ch. There are no problems with the vent being on the left side and it’s built really well.

I tested one of their initial offerings and have slow motion video, if anyone cares. Here is a copy/paste of my review:
View down the electrical line paralleling the southern border of my property, offset by about 75 yards, this morning:

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My honest assessment is that the initial high-pressure gasses that “sting” your eyes/face are the same with the Griffin as any of the others. They simply are too fast/of too much volume to meaningfully channel through a 90* bend at the furthest end of the pressure-vessel (upper/lower) You can see this in the videos, as well as my experience with it as an anecdote. The slow gasses, residual back-wash, etc. and some of the high-velocity initial overpressure does go out the right side. It’s like a BLAST. The lever doesn’t appear to mitigate it much, really, in my video anyway. It then is dissipated by the environment. This may mean you have a big cloud of it just in front of your face blown back into your face, or not. Who knows?

The best I can relate this to is your shower head. If you poke a 1/8" hole in it, will all the other holes cease to put out water? Will you really notice the lack of pressure to them, if the reason you poked that 1/8" hole was that their little streams were too violent? Likely not. Likely, all you will get is MORE water coming out of the shower head. This is about what I experienced. The little streams still flowed too hard, and now there was just more “water”, so to speak (total amount of smoke and gas in front of my face).

Personally, I did not find the Griffin SN-ACH to be any real-world improvement over the BCM regarding “gas in face mitigation”, and I didn’t really bother to play with the mil-spec because who does, who is also considering a $80+ CH?

No, where the Griffin shone was in its finish. It is a VERY well machined and anodized piece. The ambi levers are very pleasant. It’s what the Raptor should have been, IMO.

Is it worth the cost of admission? Yes. As much as any other $80+ Ambi CH.
Is it going to change how you perceive shooting with a suppressor? It didn’t for me.

As always, I strive for accuracy and honesty from my point of view. Others may perceive more benefit, or less, depending on their rifle.

This is, also, just my initial assessment. I spent a total of 30 rounds between all 3 CH’s. Mostly on the BCM and Griffin. I may change my opinion later as I get more time on the Griffin, but I am reserved on how much room for change their is. I experienced what I experienced. Maybe after a few mag dumps a cumulative effect would be noticed, I don’t know.

Regardless, the videos speak for themselves, and I just wanted to add my own perception to the technical aspect that the videos provide.

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