Muzzle brake / flash hider that reduces the sound level?
Seems like all of them add to decibels … this would be for a carbine length AR
I might be asking for something that doesn’t exist
AR Technical forum is where you want to search and read up on this.
If a device truly reduces the decibels all around, it would require a $200 tax stamp.
However, a handful of devices do reduced SPL at the shooters ear, either by not being as loud as others or by redirecting sound forward. The AAC Blackout flash hider is one of them (per instrumented testing on vuurwapenblog), as is the “Simple threaded device” (“STD”) (http://simplethreadeddevices.com/). The various linear compensators also redirect sound.
My Silencerco has been extremely effective at mitigating both muzzle rise, as well as flash. It’s significantly quieter than any other muzzle device I’ve ever used.
Thanks. His blog is deactivated, but I did find this nicely empirical testing on http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/08/07/muzzle-brakes-sound-test/
Fairly recent, done in 2105. I’ll review when I have more time to not work at work
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction
This thread will be moved shortly, but meantime, minus the “huh”, I have to compliment you on the avatar. Huh likely gives the impression to those that weren’t there he was dumb, but you and I know he wasn’t.
Ok quick addition for the greater good. Comps are not designed to reduce noise, so there is almost no point in factoring it in.
…might as well ask for Cold Fusion too
I hate muzzle breaks.
They will easily blow your ears out, and it’s not like you need one for 5.56/223.
I just stick with the standard birdcage flashhider, I think anything else for 5.56 is a waste of money unless it significantly reduces muzzle flash.
This. Standard A2 flash hider is all I have needed and used. YMMV.
Battlecomp
This.
LoL! Actually it’s more a meme that comments on all the stuff you read in forums that perhaps isn’t fully supported by logic?
The blackout came on my first Noveske and I had it for a while. While not as loud as my BCM comps, I absolutely hated the pinging sound.
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The A2 is a very good all-around device and a lot of the aftermarket is actually less effective than it in various ways.
However, the AAC Blackout has a lot less flash and it’s quieter, a nice combination. (Instrumented testing done by vuurwapenblog; I have copies of all the files, and you might find the article at an internet archive type site.)
Some other options have more flash but less noise, which isn’t a good trade for military use but might be a good trade for hunting or recreational shooting.
No disrespect implied, but…
If this is what you are talking about I find that hard to believe.
http://www.advanced-armament.com/Blackout-51T-Muzzle-Brake_p_497.html
Those muzzle brakes deflect so much extra sound back towards the shooter that it will pretty much clear your sinuses. There is literally no possible way that any muzzle brake is going to be more quiet than a flash hider including the A2 Birdcage.
Muzzle brakes are so freekin obnoxious on ARs, the only reason I would use one is as a sacrificial blast baffle for a suppressor.
I’ve messed with muzzle brakes, my ears regret it. I absolutely hate them, doubling up on ear pro is mandatory with those things.
The AAC brake you linked to is well known for being a very loud conventional brake. That’s not what I’m talking about. I mean this flash hider:
http://www.advanced-armament.com/BLACKOUT-Non-Mount-Flash-Hider-556mm_p_449.html
I agree with your above comments on brakes.
Blackout vs breakout.
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Ahh my apologies…
Yea I think something like that would be worth the money. My bad I thought you were talking about a brake.
If you’re trying to avoid hearing loss, every little bit helps. The quietest non-NFA muzzle devices are about 3-4db quieter to the shooter’s ear than an A2. That may not sound like much, but it’s the same as the difference between mediocre earplugs and really good earplugs. $50+ for this minor reduction may sound like money wasted, but not for those of us who start recognizing their own hearing loss, and at that point it sounds like an incredible bargain.
Thinking about it…like for real…
XM-177 Moderator. Those are all NFA controlled but they
Act as Brakes
Act as FH
Dampen sound enough where a Carbine sounds like a full size 20" rifle.
Griffin Armament makes a close enough copy, the XM Linear Comp that isnt NFA.
I cant remember who but someone made actual XM-177 Moderators up until a couple years back but are NFA.