If you know of a quality carbine class for only 100 dollars. Be sure
and let me know so I can sign up. Doesnt matter where it’s located.
You know you can literally piss in your rifle to keep it running.
The cost of the unnecessary coating could help pay for a class or more ammo.Priorities.
Reading comprehension…
:rolleyes:
$100 would be enough to put a deposit down on most courses.
Ok I get what your saying. But I have the Nib-x on my bcg. Yes It is worth the money, and no, my priorities are not screwed up. People have different priorities. This coating upgrade is exactly what I was looking for. Peoples needs are different.
I have an NIB BCG and love it. Does it do anything that a regular lubed one doesn’t? No, not really other than being easier to clean. For me it’s insurance. It’s just another layer of protection so that when I pull that rifle out of the trunk it’s going to function correctly. To me, that’s worth $100. If it was just a range gun, no I wouldn’t do it. But it’s a work gun, so it’s worth it to me.
So why would a standard QUALITY BCG not function correctly if properly maintained and lubricated?
If all the coating does is make the part easier to clean, what’s with this peace of mind stuff?
The statements directly contradicts one another.
That if the BCG is not properly lubed that it will still run. We do not need to go over thousands of scenarios of why and where you will be without lube, and how your bolt got so dry in the first place, we all have our reasons.
I personally carry lube in my pistol grip, along with two batteries for my Aimpoint.
Nib coatings have been ran without lube. That is the peace of mind, that when SHTF and you run out of lube then you can run your gun without worry for a while until you can get some.
You realize you can buy a lifetime supply of lube today? Old junk car crankcases will be full of oil too.
That said, I certainly have nothing against the coating but the odds you will not be able to obtain a lubricant in your lifetime is pretty much zero.
Sometimes things happen and I don’t lube it religiously like I should. It happens. NiB is another barrier of protection.
I went through this dilemma a few years back. Here is what I did:
Bought one.
Sold one.
Bought a BCM.
Never looked back with regret.
Do a search on this forum. NiB BCG and the miracle whip coatings have been discussed ad nauseam. I myself have participated in the great NiB debate.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=87587&highlight=EXO+coating
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=109255&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=95379&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102495&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=92556&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=50505&page=4&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=53536&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=53625&highlight=nickel+boron
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=78366&highlight=EXO+coating
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=71836&highlight=EXO+coating
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=57003&highlight=EXO+coating
There are many more threads on the topic of EXO/NiB/Fail Zero/Snake Oil/Miracle Whip/Whizz Jizz Super Juice
After reading it all and digesting it already, I will save you time and money: Get a BCM BCG and wet it with some lube.
Right.
If one is so worried about getting into a HUGE firefight, all the snake oil gear in the world ain’t going to do jack.
Training on the other hand…
These new members, I swear!
:rolleyes:
I don’t want to be another snake oil salesman, but a good coating of a lube like FrogLube or Fireclean will allow even a standard bolt to be wiped clean after shooting. A 2oz bottle of Fireclean lasts a long time. At my current rate of use, cleaning after every 500 rounds (or more), a 2 oz bottle will last as long as the barrel on my DDM4.
It has been well established that no, it is not.
You still need to lube a nickle boron BCG.
In case anyone cares to learn something today:
http://www.defensereview.com/the-big-m4-myth-fouling-caused-by-the-direct-impingement-gas-system-makes-the-m4-unreliable/
After I wipe my BCG’s down, they are still very slick from the FrogLube.
It’s a good product.
Let em purchase all the insurance parts they want, it drives the industry and the economy. Shooting sport is one of few industries thriving today in this country…:big_boss:
I never said anything about not training. I first asked if anyone has tried the company. Then people turned this into: “oh he is thinking about NiB coating, he must not train, he must just want fancy cool things, ah what an idiot.”
I get it, you think it is a waste, I was wondering how the companies quality to produce proper NiB coating to see if I like it. I personally buy products for my weapon in order to be able to fight with it without malfunction. Who knows when you may just have to use your gun?
I know training is most important, I look at carbine training the same as my MMA training, you will be stupid to get into the cage without knowing proper technique!
People also say my priorities are not straight because I want that coating, I was thinking it was on the right track of keeping your weapon reliable, you do not think so? Thank you for your advice. I honestly like the responses I get, but I do not want everyone think I am just some stupid guy wanting all the “tacticool” stuff I can buy.
I take gun training very seriously. I have not been able to go to a professional classes, for many reasons right now. But I do go to the desert at least once a month to sharpen the fundamentals I can.
Read the link I posted from Mike Pannone.
Thanks I will.
As someone was kind enough to point out. There are numerous threads discussing and debating this issue.