Hilton Yam had some positive things to do say about it, but it did get a lot of flack on the internet before release.
I don’t really have an opinion formed on it, but if there’s a 4,000 dollar price tag on it I’ll pass.
Can anyone confirm if they’re built in the Colt Custom Shop or just hand fitted during the production line?
There is a lot to be desired for a $2k MSRP Colt.
Major Dislike-
Stainless Steel Slide and Frame.
I am certainly interested in how this weapon pans out over the next few years with MARSOC. If it truly is the drop in parts gun advertised; and runs as a service pistol is expected, it would be a major accomplishment for Colt. Time will tell.
I know the Civilian Model is not the drop in parts weapon issued to MARSOC. I chalk the price up as more of the “novelty factor” for the 1911 enthusiast than the fitting performed by the Colt Custom Shop- and the reason I would ever pick one up (novelty).
I really am a big fan of the 1911 and carry one when I can…
However, as an issued service weapon there are just to many Modern Service Pistols that make more logistical sense.
I will reserve judgement until the objective “End Users” of the M45 weigh in. Shooters/Operators are…for the most part objective in their assessment of new gear.
One thing about a Colt of this nature…
Buy it, stick it in the back of a safe for a few years and the resale price is significantly more than the MSRP. Especially after it is discontinued.
The AAR’s from the MARSOC Operators will be the most profound voice in regards to the M45.
Is there somewhere that I can read the detailed Marines reviews on the Colt and the Springer MC Operator. All I remember seeing is that the Colt was selected because of performance. Nothing else
Springfield Pros and the USMC marked 1911s they built for 'em are about as good as a 1911 gets.
IMO 1911s aren’t superb no matter what kind it is, but Springfield Custom builds 'em as good as they can functionally get.
From what I remember, the two realistic contenders were Springfield Armory and Colt, but despite the issues with Colt 1911s, the Colts were still selected.
It was interesting. The only info and photos released I could find on the 1911 trials for MARSOC revealed significant failures of the pistols submitted by Colt. However, not one detail was ever produced, to my knowledge, indicating whether or not the Springfield Armory MC Operator was even fired, let alone performed adequately or failed.
If someone has the info, I would love to see it. I picked up the MC Operator about a month before the initial media release of the Colt M45. I am still satisfied with my purchase, but I would love to own the pair.
The M45s are hand built PWS made guns, they are being removed from the system at this time. The Colt made guns are M45A1s.
It was my personnel opinion that many facets of the selection process were waived in order to get a weapon now vice getting something that met the requirements
I have personally seen a pile of MEU/SOC guns down for repair in the 1st Force Armory in Las Flores. No thanks.
“needs of the Corps”, not needs of Marines?
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Pretty much.
The historical significance of this run of pistols, per LAV, is that they will likely be the last of the GI issue 1911’s … ever. The civilian models are being made by the Colt’s Manufacturing Custom Shop. The USMC guns are made by Colt’s Manufacturing (handguns) and are being distributed to the USMC via Colt Defense LLC (M4’s).
I was told the production run would be limited (400 in total?) and that a maximum of two units per order will be allocated to an FFL who orders them.
Dealer cost is under $2,000. Retail, not including gunbroker, is about $2,650 ish when they pop up.
They sure are purdy. Will never know if they’re built like crap, most prolly ain’t gonna shoot theirs. :happy:
The USMC Colt Rail Gun is one of the best current offerings on the market today that will surely increase in value
My suggestion is to buy one as reasonable as you can when you can afford it
A collectible historically significant 1911 - no brainer
Thanks for your input Larry. I was hoping to hear your views on the subject.
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Some hasty pics.
I have not shot this. (Should I? LOL. :no: )
The rail gun is sold as a “kit.”
Packaged in a customized Pelican case …
Opened up …
Supplied with customized Otis cleaning kit.
Bottom layer has a spare mag. Gun comes with 2 mags. I don’t know who supplies these, but they are sporting Wilson Combat baseplates.
Side by side with a (much lighter) Glock 17. Note that this gun is stamped CMC, not CLTDEF.
I am not a 1911 guy. I am a Glock guy. But the historical significance of this gun was too hard to resist. I lucked out with LGS on this purchase - not a gunbroker find.
As an aside, I would note that following recently passed legislation in NY and CT (magazine capacity restrictions, limits on number of bullets you can have in the magazine), there has been a renewed interest in 1911’s for EDC. If you can only carry 7 rounds (NY) or 10 rounds (CT) regardless of magazine capacity, this is giving some folks an incentive to switch over to bigger boolits.
cough Good reading for non-1911 types.
http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/2011/06/08/read-this-before-you-buy-your-first-1911/
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If you don’t mind me asking… Where did get it?
Also, if I did pick one up, I was planning on shooting it. Would that be foolish? I really only plan on having one 1911 so I’d like it be “significant” in some way shape or form, however, I’d like to shoot it occasionally too. I’m really not interested in owning just any “run of the mill” 1911 so I thought this would fit the bill.
Thanks for the pics BTW.
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i’ll shoot you a private message in a second. i would also sent Grant an e-mail, i would hope he has some inbound.
the store i bought it from was about 20 minutes west of the factory.
the ad from the LGS went out via e-mail on saturday at 4 pm when the store closed. they were literally scarfed up by 10:01 a.m. when the store opened next morning.
ffl: “you gonna shoot that thing, right? i would.”
slut: 
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Thanks. I’m on Tapatalk so I can’t access my PMs at the moment. I’ll have to check it out later when I get home. I appreciate your time!
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Per Brent Turchi of Colt’s Custom Shop these are not a limited run and MSRP is $1995.
thanks for the clarification.
go get 'um 
I don’t doubt it a bit.
But like I said earlier. Even the best 1911 is still gonna be a broke-down POS. These new Colts are not going to be any better and I’d bet they’ll prove to be worse than what they already have.
Particularly with lack of trained 1911 armorer support while deployed. Those afflicted with nostalgia forget about this.
The M45A1 is being “pimped” as a drop in parts gun… I guess we will find out if a true Armorer is needed for these weapons or not.
As far as guns going down. All service weapons reach this point. Hence being a “service weapon.”
From an objective stand point the HK45/45C is the first service .45ACP I would look at for issue to those groups with the requirement/need for it. NSW did it right with the 45C.
Again, I am not the apologetic 1911 guy. I have half a dozen built by the best in the business. Knowing what it takes to get them like this does not make me biased but objective.
In short, not all 1911’s are created equal- that is why I still have Glock 9mm’s and HK45’s as well as full confidence in the tried and true SIG Sauer P226.