Long story so I’ll try to condense. 14.5" Sabre Mid barrel-sent to AR15 barrels.com to pin/weld FSC Brake-He drilled through barrel, attempted to plug barrel
visible in bore-Then put the biggest blob of weld on-welded Brake to barrel See pic. Sent barrel to another so called gunsmith and he cut it to 13.7, shoulder was was not square to bore-convex, threading was .020 undersize @.475 not .495. You can literally push on/pull off any muzzle device. Trying to salvage this unreplaceable barrel. So my only chance is to cut it back to 12"-13" and open up gas port. Keep it and put it on a pistol lower. Any clues on gas port size ???, 12",12.5", or 13" ??? and what buffers/springs would work reliable???
Yes, I searched and read this thread before posting https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?161572-12-5-quot-barrel-on-a-mid-length-gas-system&highlight=mid+length
Exactly- if some gunsmith drilled a hole though my barrel while trying to pin it, I’d ask him to please buy me a new equivalent barrel. If he refused, I’d politely inform him that he could see me in small claims court and I would display examples of his poor work to the far ends on the internet in the meantime.
Also, can’t get too excited about the “irreplaceable” Sabre barrels, sure they’re nice but not nice enough that I would chase all over the place cutting and recutting it, trying to keep it in circulation. It’s a barrel by a company that is out of business, that’s not a plus in my book, because they didn’t do anything amazing to the barrel that no one else did/does. If there’s an issue with my BCM/DD/Noveske barrel a thousand rounds in, I can call them and get help - but for Sabre I’d be SOL.
This. Sounds like 2 people owe you some money. And that weld is horrible!! Why pin when you can weld the MD right to the barrel itself! :fie: Some people should not be offering services like this… Period.
I would start over. And take some more pictures and post in the gunsmith hall of shame thread.
Screw gun bans, we should be trying to regulate who can buy a welder! The simplest job I’ve had in over a year makes pinning a barrel look like child’s play. It’s a freaking tack weld for crying out loud!
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[QUOTE=Mr blasty;2091669]Screw gun bans, we should be trying to regulate who can buy a welder! The simplest job I’ve had in over a year makes pinning a barrel look like child’s play. It’s a freaking tack weld for crying out loud!
I run a 12.5" middy from Triarc Systems (worked with MicroMOA on their 12.5" middy systems). With an A5, so far, it’s run everything I’ve tossed at it. Pretty smokingly fantastic rig.
As nice as Sabre’s barrels were-there are just as good, if not better on the market now. Unless this had been a one off, custom made, Compass Lake Engineering barrel given directly to you by Frank White…I’d get the cash from both smiths for their screwups, and then get something better now.
I liked the idea of a 12.5" midlength and so I had one in 2010. It was fine, but there was ZERO difference as far as I could ever tell between it and a 12.5" carbine due to the middy’s port needing to be larger than the carbine. I got rid of it, and the new owner made a dedicated suppressed gun (handguard over the suppressor days) out of it, shot quite nicely. So imo… Adding a suppressor is like adding barrel length and to that point, I’d estimate that gun shot like a 16" middy.
Dedicated can, good to go. MicroMoa’s barrels with proper porting day one look like a good idea as it takes the guess work out of it. So yea, it can be done but for most people it won’t be noticeable or worth the difference.
This exactly. If I had them doing a simple tac weld it’s because I want a 14.5" barrel that’s gtg on a rifle lower without a stamp. Not one I’d have to cut down and get a stamp or pistol lower to use. If they destroy it they buy it.
