Another public shooting, this time in a Portland mall.

On the gun free zones: it never ceases to amaze that anyone takes it seriously. Especially in places like malls.

Saturday I walked into Fedex to pick up a package, the door had a big sign “No weapons in this facility.” Asked the counter lady about it, and she said shipping stuff is still fine, but “That’s just to keep the crazies out.” I asked if she thought a ‘crazy’ person would actually care about that sign. She laughed and said no.

I want to respect private property and typically do. But increasingly, going unarmed onto private property in a very public place like a mall or theater–regardless of their policies–seems like a bad idea.

I am of he same opinion re private property that bans my right to carry. First choice is to not go there and not patronize them. If that is impossible for whatever reason I just ignore the sign and get in and out ASAFP.

Given depressing nature of the Christmas season for some, coupled with the crappy economy, undoubted year end layoffs and the doomsday predictions this may be an interesting ride for the next few weeks.

I was asking specifically about OR. Thanks though.

OR LEO contingent here? Chime in?

I can not believe that guy didnt turn around once he saw the Gun Free Zone sign. The answer must be a bigger sign…

The Clackamas County Sheriffs’s Office is holding a press conference right now. The shooter was a 22 year old male identified as Jacob Tyler Roberts. He used an AR-15 that he stole from a relative. It jammed or failed to fire at some point during the shooting. He was not wearing body armor. They are reporting some type of load bearing vest.

I went to high school with the male victim:(

Sorry to hear about your friend.

Police: Ore. mall shooter used stolen rifle

http://news.yahoo.com/police-ore-mall-shooter-used-stolen-rifle-181931596.html

The murderers facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/jake.roberts.102

So what was his motive?

Get tired of MW3?

I saw something about a nasty breakup with his pregnant girlfriend. Also read that he was looking for suicide by police.

More: http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-shooter-jacob-roberts-quit-job-hawaii/story?id=17946938

Since the weapon was identified as stolen, we may expect this event will not get as much attention going forward as it provides less fuel for the gun-control crowd. Not that they won’t figure out a way to use it, just that it isn’t as easy.

I think the shooter must have used some form of witchcraft. Lord knows that guns can’t be carried into gun-free zones.

What black magic sorcery is this?

Also, did anyone confirm the media’s report of an AR15 being the actual weapon used? It seems that since Aurora every shooting has been an “AR15”. Whatever happened to the great variety of AK47’s in use by mass shooters? I especially liked all the 9mm ones, and the .40 ones, and the ones chambered in 12 gauge.

Yeah they change up every now and again.

Those are gold, Moose-knuckle!

This guy seems to have anti-depressants written all over him. Dollars to donuts this guy, like all the other mass shooters was on some drug or professional mental health care.

It’s interesting how they all sort of follow a pattern that includes bad timing…

bc

Are you saying the drugs and/or mental health care cause people to be mass murderers?

I think he is saying this is a recurring pattern with the people who go on mass shooting sprees. These are not stable people and they also tend to be loaners. Just because someone is mentally ill doesn’t mean they are a threat to themselves or others though.

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It should be self evident that people who go on these shootings have mental health issues.

But that statement looks to imply the cause is treatment, not the root problem.

This guy wasn’t a loner.

So is it true that this guys gun was an AR and it also jammed?

What kind of malfunction are we talking about here? The Aurora guy’s malfunction was magazine related, I don’t think that is the case here.