another nail in the coffin

General General Discussion
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I wondered about the R-C-I as well, but Republican or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter. This is one reason why I’ve become a Libertarian.

I tried to find out how he voted on the SAFE Act, but no luck.

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R-C-I means Republican Conservative Independence according to http://www.lwvnyc.org/TRY_generallist.html (League of Women Voters of the City of New York) Just warms you little heart don’t it.

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Before jumping on this it would be nice to know what the legal defination of annoy is in New York.
Pat

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So if an Officer gets annoyed by someone’s voice or accent, does that mean he or she can arrest that individual?

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I don’t think there is one, which of course is the entire problem.

But if it is a felony, can CCWs use it as justification for lethal force?

:smiley:

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Or the problem is their looking at passing stupid laws when the laws already on the books which apply to the comman man are sufficient.

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Touche!

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bing, bing bing, Emily GOOD

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you will find your answer here
http://scopeny.org/

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http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article240.htm#p240.25
S 240.26 Harassment in the second degree.
A person is guilty of harassment in the second degree when, with
intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person:

  1. He or she strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects such other
    person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same; or
  2. He or she follows a person in or about a public place or places; or
  3. He or she engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts
    which alarm or seriously annoy such other person and which serve no
    legitimate purpose.
    Subdivisions two and three of this section shall not apply to
    activities regulated by the national labor relations act, as amended,
    the railway labor act, as amended, or the federal employment labor
    management act, as amended.
    Harassment in the second degree is a violation.
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There needs to be a legal definition of “annoy” for this to fly in the court system and I doubt an officer putting “da bitch pissed me off” in his report will satisfy that definition. As LEOs we do not qualify as being the “offended party” in a disorderly conduct offense. This is a slippery slope at best without further clarification.

Personally my standard is if I wouldn’t do/say it with the bosses watching me do/say it I don’t do it. Film me to your hearts content. It’s just further evidence in court of how polite and courteous I was to said individual until it was no longer time to be polite and courteous. I don’t sweat the camera phones.

If they capture something I feel could be of evidentiary value I ask for the phone, contact CSU, get a copy of it, and give them their phone back with the original. This shouldn’t be hard.

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And that is why you are one of the “good guys” and it is appreciated.