Anyone subscribe to this theory?
Of course… History tells us as much… Ron
Watching the silly new commentators on the History channel (you know, the one with the hair and the one who frantically taps at his fingers wild-eyed), I’d say no. But beyond those fools I’d have to say it is at the very least a possibility. Impossible to rule it out anyway.
I’ve got to say, being an open-minded Christian, that I’m a believer.
Please remember this theory has been around long before History Channel was looking to fill another prime time spot.
(I’ll re-post this here)
In 2009 there was a German super computer that spit out an algorithm with an estimated 500,000,000,000 (500 billion) galaxies.
At the very low end of estimated habitable planets (based on the 100 billion galaxy estimate) they came to the number 50,000,000,000,000,000,000 (50 quintillion) planets that could sustain life as we know it.
Chariots of the Gods comes to mind.
I think all the History Channel crap is speculative nonsense. While cosmic seeding “may” have been responsible for the origin of life on the planet I don’t think aliens have ever visited us or helped us build anything.
I find it probable that there is intelligent life in the universe, I just don’t think they’ve ever wasted their time coming here. But people enjoy believing all kinds of absurd and ridiculous things and the history channel has the programming to prove it.
Yes
Yep, that’s the guy. :rolleyes:
He brings the show(s) down unfortunately, but it is possible that the Dogon at the very least were visited at some time. There is some interesting evidence there, though perhaps not glamorous enough for the likes of that odd fellow.
I haven’t seen that particular show you are talking about, so tell me to shut up if you want to.
But one of the theories that I have always seen mentioned is the fact that pyramids are found all over as signs.
Until someone discovered the arch and flying buttresses you could only pile rocks/dirt/etc one way without it collapsing. That is a pyramid.
Give any kid a bunch of dirt and tell him to build something tall. You always get a pyramid.
I can’t confirm or deny alien visitation. But I do deny pyramids as “proof”.
Sorry, that is one of my pet peeves.:o
I go back and forth. Some evidence is very compelling, but most of it is serious grasping at straws and or already dis proven, and crazy hair guy -and ilk - don’t help their cause. I’m keeping an open mind, but not so open my brain falls out.
I can’t really see us being the only life, beyond that it’s all just speculation really. Ron
Pyramids are an interesting sort. Our brightest at MIT, Cal Tech, et al still can’t figure out how they were constructed. Egyptologist tell us that the pyramids at Giza are tombs. One problem with this “truth” is that there has never been any sort sarcophagus found in any of them.
There is an extremely famous, large sarcophagus in the great pyramid. The mummy was lost to vandals in antiquity, but the coffin is still there. Has a big piece of an upper corner missing, believe it’s made of black granite.
The group I referred to are an African tribe that reference beings from a star next to Sirius, nothing to do with pyramids which we all know were build by man.
[b]"Certain researchers investigating the Dogon have reported that they seem to possess advanced astronomical knowledge, the nature and source of which have subsequently become embroiled in controversy. From 1931 to 1956 the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule studied the Dogon. This included field missions ranging from several days to two months in 1931, 1935, 1937 and 1938 and then annually from 1946 until 1956. In late 1946 Griaule spent a consecutive thirty-three days in conversations with the Dogon wiseman Ogotemmêli, the source of much of Griaule and Dieterlen’s future publications. They reported that the Dogon believe that the brightest star in the sky, Sirius (sigi tolo or ‘star of the Sigui’), has two companion stars, pō tolo (the Digitaria star), and ęmmę ya tolo, (the female Sorghum star), respectively the first and second companions of Sirius A. Sirius, in the Dogon system, formed one of the foci for the orbit of a tiny star, the companionate Digitaria star. When Digitaria is closest to Sirius, that star brightens: when it is farthest from Sirius, it gives off a twinkling effect that suggests to the observer several stars. The orbit cycle takes 60 years. They also claimed that the Dogon appeared to know of the rings of Saturn, and the moons of Jupiter.
Griaule and Dieterlen were puzzled by this Sudanese star system, and prefaced their analysis with the following remark:-
The problem of knowing how, with no instruments at their disposal, men could know the movements and certain characteristics of virtually invisible stars has not been settled, nor even posed."[/b]
Areospace engineer Christopher Dunn has wrote a book on his theory of the great pyramid and the black granite box.
"Climbing into the black granite box that is set into the floor of the chamber, I placed my 12-inch straight edge on the inside surface of the box. The edge had been prepared differently than the other straight edge I used in 1995, as it had a chamfer on both corners. To all who were interested, I slid this edge along the smooth interior of the granite box with my flashlight shining behind it and demonstrated its exact precision. But while I was doing it, in the back of my mind I was anxious to perform other tests. The squareness of the corners was of critical importance to me. Modern machine axes are aligned orthogonally, or exactly perpendicular, to each other to assure accuracy. This state assures us that the corners cut into an object on the machine are square and true.
The requirements for producing this condition go beyond coincidental simplicity. I wasn’t expecting the corners of the sarcophagus to be perfectly square, for perfection is extremely difficult to achieve. However, I was not prepared for the degree of perfection I found. I was flabbergasted as I slid my precision square along the top of the parallel (I used the top of the parallel to raise the square above the corner radius) and it fit perfectly on the adjacent surface. “Bloody Hell!” I exclaimed as the significance of this find came over me. I pointed it out to others in the group (Alan Alford spent the next few days mimicking me with a good natured “bloody hell”). The film crew was busy capturing it on video as I went to each corner and found the same condition. On three corners the square sat flush against both surfaces. One corner had a gap that was detected by the light test, though it was probably only about .001 inch.
So not only do we have an artifact with perfectly flat surfaces, the inside corners are also perfectly square. What else is significant about this so-called sarcophagus? The corners themselves! After conducting the test with the parallel and the square, I pulled out my radius gauges to check the corner radius. As I checked the corner, I chuckled to myself with memories of a documentary I had seen in March.
Those of you who saw the Fox Special early this year will remember the world’s foremost Egyptologist and director of the Giza Plateau, Zahi Hawass, pick up a dolerite ball in the bedrock chamber under one of the satellite pyramids next to Khephren’s pyramid. He was describing to the Fox anchor, Suzie Koppel, the Egyptologist’s theory of the methods the ancient Egyptians used to create granite artifacts. This method involves bashing the granite with a round ball until the desired shape is achieved.
I’m not disputing that this is a viable means of creating a box, and, indeed, there is evidence at Memphis near Saqqara that some boxes were created in this manner.
This box had large corner radii, it was extremely rough and tapered toward the bottom. Exactly what you would expect to produce using a stone ball. However, as Hawass was wielding his 8-inch diameter ball in front of the cameras, my attention was riveted on the shiny, black so-called “sarcophagus” behind him, which sat in mute contradiction to what he was proposing. The inside of this box had the same appearance as the box inside Khafre’s pyramid. The surfaces appeared smooth and precise, but more importantly, the inside corners were equally as sharp as what I witnessed in Khafre’s pyramid. Just looking at it you could see that to create such an artifact with an 8-inch diameter ball would be impossible!
Likewise, creating the corner radius of the box inside Khafre’s pyramid using such primitive methods would be impossible. Checking this corner radius with my radius gauges, I started with a half-inch radius gauge and had to keep working my way down in size until selecting the correct one. The inside corner radius of the box inside Khafre’s pyramid checked 3/32 inch. The radius at the bottom, where the floor of the box met the wall, checked 7/16 inch. It should go without saying that you cannot fit an 8-inch ball into a corner with a 3/32 radius, or even a 1-inch radius.
It is an incredible piece of work. One that speaks of high technology in its creation as well as its use. Even if we put aside the question of how it was manufactured, it still begs the question, “for what primitive purpose would we find it necessary to hold such precision and accuracy?” If we understand what it takes to perform such work, and recognize our conditioned preconceived ideas about history and prehistory, we are left with no alternative but to accept that highly advanced civilizations did exist in prehistory.
Artifacts such as these fly in the face of any previous explanations of the ancient Egyptians stone cutting methods. Egyptologists are now abandoning their previous assertions that these marvelous granite artifacts were cut using copper chisels, and I applauded them for such honesty. Moreover, there have been recent plausible demonstrations of how the ancient Egyptians cut granite using primitive methods by Denys Stocks and Mark Lehner
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting.html ). However, what has been demonstrated does not come close to explaining the remarkable precision, geometry and tool marks cut into the stones found on the Giza Plateau and other sites in Egypt."
So what the world believes to be an obvious sarcophagus, inside an essentially typical tomb (except for it’s size), you consider a “box”. I see…
As far as the article goes, I personally can’t imaging how difficult it would be to create such an object with primitive tools. But then again, we have countless stone sculptures all over the world that attest to such an ability. Look at some of the human sculptures carved by hand 2,000 plus years ago. Many have surfaces so smooth and perfect they defy imagination itself, yet they are there.
Remember, back then there was no TV, no computers, no cell phones, nothing that we relate to today or even decades ago. This was their life, generations of families grew to become masons. They perfected their meticulous and time consuming work in a way that we simply can not relate to anymore. Therefore it just seems impossible to us.
Actually what Mr. Dunn is pointing out (from his mechanical engineering background) is that the black granite box, among other things, were constructed with such exact tolerances that we CANNOT make anything like that in this day and age with all of our modern technology. It’s easier to say, “yeap that once housed a mummy”. No records have ever been discovered saying what king was entombed in the great pyramid.
Anything regarding the pyramids asks more questions than they answer.
Personally, I find the Great Pyramids boring. I prefer to read on the following sites:
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[li]The stone of the South-Hadjar el Gouble, which weighs 2000 TONS. Modern day heavy lift cranes cannot even begin to move such weight.
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[li]The temple at Ba’albek, with it’s 800 TON foundation stones.
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[li]The 11,000 year Gobekli Tepe which was buried on purpose in modern day Turkey.
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[li]Pumapunku in modern day Bolivia which has not been able to even be dated yet.
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My biggest peeve about the whole theory is that is basically paints ancient humanity as a bunch of dolts, refusing to give them credit for any intelligence or ingenuity.
I’ve been to the pyramids at Giza (and seen the sarcophagus), I’ve been to the pyramids at Teotihuacan. They are both absolutely incredible feats of engineering. We put a man on the moon, also an incredible feat of engineering, especially considering the computing power of any high schoolers graphing calculator eclipses that of the Apollo missions. Two completely separate instances with only one thing tying them together, effing smarts.
The bottom line is that humanity has done incredible things, more with less, for thousands of years. It’s a dick move to claim that ancient peoples weren’t intelligent enough to do work like a boss. Just because we can’t grasp how they did it back then doesn’t mean they couldn’t do it to begin with. Maybe we’re the idiots and they were the geniuses, either way, humanity is the common denominator, not some funny little dude with a big head and a cigarette addiction.
Do aliens exist? I’m sure they do. Have we been visited? I’m not willing to discount it from the realm of possibility. Did aliens do all the stuff that people think ancient people were too stupid to do? HIGHLY doubtful.
You really need to do some more research on this subject.