Ancient Aimpoints...

As a result of my “vintage gun advertisements” topics, I went digging in my “old gear” box and came across a few things I had forgotten I even own. And I figured they might be of interest to the members here to see how some of the current gear got it’s start.

I specifically did not put this in the Optics and Mounts forum because I felt it to be too obsolete to be a relevant discussion topic in that forum. But if any moderator or staff member feels it would be more appropriate there, please feel free to move it.

In any case, it was either late 1983 or early 1984 when I got my first red dot scope. It was an Aimpoint Mark III.

I can’t begin to describe how new and revolutionary, to say nothing of expensive, such a device was in 83/84. For the average civilian shooter this sort of thing bordered on science fiction. Try and keep in mind that at the time projected red dot laser sights were considered compact if they were the size of a mag light. So to have a similar application in a compact red dot scope was very high speed indeed for the time. So of course I had to have one.

It also came with a magnifier which I think is a 3x for long range applications.

I remember the purchase because it coincided with was at the time the single biggest purchase I had made in my life. In addition to the Aimpoint, I bought a HK91 and a HK93. I got them for $350 each (which would be about $800 in today’s money) which was quite a substantial purchase given my part time job as a kid in high school.

If memory serves the Aimpoint was almost as much as each rifle so I was in for about $1000 or so. Suffice to say it was my only significant purchase for about a 12 month period.

This is a direct result of reading way too many issues of SOF and shooting with some of my fathers friends who were honest to goodness Green Berets and hearing them discuss these items in positive terms.

I should mention that I already owned an AR15 SP1 and CAR15 carbine.

So there I was headed out of the small town Iowa gunshop with two rifles and one red dot scope and lighter by about a grand. And I of course felt like I paid way too much for what I had in hand. I think AR15s were going for about $250 at the time.

At any rate, I had the uber tactical setup.

Let’s pretend that isn’t a Bsquare mount. I was in high school and it is what I could afford at the time.

Budget mounts aside I was feeling pretty James Bond. I remember going to the range that weekend and practicing all the “fast sight” target acquisition drills I had been shown by adults far more knowledgeable than I.

I remember thinking how revolutionary this setup was. I remember thinking how it would change the way people shoot forever.

Now I look at it and I’m amazed at how almost useless it actually is.

:laugh:

Thank god red dots have come a long way. Oh well, money well spent to feel like a tactical god for a brief period of time. At least I didn’t buy night vision back then.

Very cool! Does it still work? What do specs say the MOA dot is 2/4?

Still works.

I don’t have the manual, but you can download the specs here.

http://www.aimpoint.com/products/discontinued-sights/product-singleview/product/mark-iii/

That was pretty cool for it’s time period. I wonder if Larue would make a mount for it?

I remember those days 84/85

I bought a HK93 w/accessories for $459 or so, ordered thu F.J.Vollmer Co.

I longed for a Armson OEG day/night sight but that was around $200

Edit: Wish I still had it today!

Those things belong on PAWN STARS! :stuck_out_tongue:

Awesome. thanks for posting this. I saw an early generation Aimpoint at a gun show once that I would have bought if it wasn’t the cost of T1.

I saw a Aimpoint a retire LT COL had i was doing some work on his house. it looked like a scope but had some weird angle tube on it i wish I had a picture of it it was weird looking

It’s interesting you put this thread up. I just mounted my Aimpoint 2000 4moa into my spare Vortex Optics 30mm ring with 1" spacers into it and put it in on my 10.5" 7.62x39 SBR upper.

I’ve kept this Aimpoint 2000 turned on for a while now…can’t remember exactly how long but I’d surmise over a few months at least. It runs on a CR123 battery.

While at the range yesterday I zeroed the optic for 25yds as its a 4moa and on a 10.5" upper with an inherently less than optimal accuracy caliber. At 100yds it held about 3" high and the grouping wasn’t at all stellar but it let me know the capability of this gun with 123gr pills flying downrange. It was also windy…

The tube is 1" so the FOV isn’t phenomenal but with both eyes open it would be ok at target acquisition in CQB matters. Plus it doesn’t turn off unless you want it to. I’ll try 150-200yds in a couple wks when I go back to the range—won’t be going during Easter but after that the 1st of May is the next Sunday.

http://www.aimpoint.com/us/products/discontinued-sights/product-singleview/product/2000/?pid=524&damcat=

Yeah, you have to call the “Old Man” over to even know what it is!

It’s worth about $50 but that is a retail price and I have overhead and need to make a profit. Best I could do is give you about $10 for it.

:sarcastic:

Is this it?

http://www.aimpoint.com/us/products/all-products/product-singleview/product/ceu/?pid=340&damcat=113

Yeah… the old man is tighter than under-aged poon.

i had an aimpoint 1000 mounted on a crap federal ordnance (remember them?) mount on the top of my AR15A2 carry handle back in the mid 80’s.
it stopped working after a few years, and i left it in a parts box, where it sat for a long time. about 10 years later, i found it, and thought about getting it repaired. i contacted aimpoint customer service, who said that they didn’t support it anymore, but i could send it back for partial credit towards a new Comp M, which i did.

Better than Corey though. He’d probably buy a UTG knockoff thinking it was the real deal.

Cool story, thanks for sharing and showing some awesome pics too!

Nope it looked like a plain jane scope with a Light tube???sticking out to the side ,he tried to sell it But something was rattling inside .:confused:

Found something close to it but it was Older style
http://www.aimpoint.com/products/discontinued-sights/product-singleview/product/2000/

See the angle tube on the end under the clear dome on the front?

This is a very old unpowered SinglePoint (70’s) available light sight used with both eyes open to superimpose a 16MOA red dot on the target. It sat in rings like a scope, used a light gathering ‘tube’ to create the ‘dot’ and could be adjusted using scope-like dials.

Update: According to research this morning, it was a predecessor to the modern red dots.

Another update: Very cool picture of these SinglePoints used on weapons used on Son Tay raid.

http://98.196.65.94/retroblackrifle/ModGde/Aces/SinglePoint.html

historical info - http://shootery.blogspot.com/2010/07/moldy-oldie-review-singlepoint-sight.html

Man I was reading SOF in those days too. I had a Marlin model 60 .22lr so your set up was quite a bit better than mine!

10.5" 7.62x39 upper
YHM Specter FF, 762 QD
Cerakoted LMT upper and SOPMOD lower
ASAP
Larue FUG
Aimpoint 2000 4moa and MBUS