The DD QD mount is aluminum. The attachment point in the Troy (MRF - RX 13.8) I don’t know, probably aluminum since the rail is.
Who makes non aluminum attachment points (that are low profile)? Don’t want to give up on the swivel yet.
It would be going on their new M4V5 that comes with the attached QD slot next to the Castle Nut. I’d assume its steel but I haven’t really looked at mine. Anyone know if it is or not?
Their receiver end plate is a gangster crappy aluminum copy of a noveske end plate.
I’ve used DD with good luck.
:knock on wood:
I have been running the GG&G heavy duty QD swivels and have been extremely happy with them. They only come off when I fully depress them to detach them from my Samson Rail QD rail socket and receiver end plate.
I have a DD mount on my rifle, doing well so far but I’ve used the rifle so little it might as well be brand new.
I’ve recently moved the mount closer in towards the magwell to make room for my flashlight, but I am finding that I don’t like how far out it sticks so I think I’ll probably order the Troy mount that will go right in the slot on my VTAC Alpha handguard.
No issues with the Noveske QD receiver end plate either or the CTR stock.
Actually now that I remember, I had an M1200 Knight try to rip my VTAC sling off the rifle with the powered turret and the QD swivels and mounts held up (stock and DD) my swivels are DD and VLTOR.
Yes, cheap ones from China have shown to be problems.
TROY HD QD are GTG and seem to have the thickest sling loops that I’ve have seen in person so far.Agreed BEWARE of Chinese JUNK!
I use QD swivels exclusively. I never had an issue, but i ALWAYS check each swivel with each mount by inserting it and pulling firmly and shaking. If it comes out (happened once or twice with unknown make swivels) then i ditch the swivel.
For the most part, the reputable American companies like Troy, DD, VLTOR, etc make great swivels, though each do differ slightly.
quick thought: Im not saying a qd doesnt have a purpose…
But Its mosly just convenience for me, and I’d imagine a LOT of people. Replace the push button with a hex screw. No chance of it popping out, and it takes a tool and 20 seconds instead of 5 to release. That might be ideal for quite a few of us.
It would fit in the built in mounts, without the worry of popping out. Anyone have anything like this. yet?
+1
I don’t want/need a “quick” disconnect, but something less permanent than the USGI sling loops would be nice…
- It would take a tool and a place to store/carry it
1a) you might not be able to get at the tool and utilize it if trapped in an akward place or position with the only thing keeping you there being the sling
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if you can readily screw it in using a tool and without the intent being a semi-permanant fixure, it can readily unscrew itself without a tool. Usually at the most inconvenient time possible
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OD to OD, up at the area where the mount comes clear of the socket a threaded fixture is inherantly weaker in shear than the a QD has there
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threaded fixtures that are in constant on off use tend to wear the threads over time making for looser engagement, and there is always the chance of cross threading regardless of age/wear
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the stress of torquing the fixture tight and loose will work at whatever is holding the socket in place and eventually break it loose/out, like epoxy in a stock body, unless such is directly machined into a component, like a socket in a rail.
For #1a… really?
for everything else: Im not drawing up plans, I was relaying a concept. Also, we are not picturing the same thing.
This statement somewhat contradicts itself. I agree that DD makes quality and I will concede that steel on steel is probably a better idea than a steel QD in an aluminum socket/mount.
That being said it seems that most people are focusing on the DD aluminum endplate mount vs the Noveske steel one. There are however a slew of DD rails out there; both OmegaX and now the new DDM4 rail; that have built in QD sockets. While I haven’t looked super close, I’m pretty sure the socket is just cut into the aluminum rail and doesn’t have a steel insert and I haven’t heard of a rash of peoples slings falling out of their rails.
yes, really.
To get an idea, watch someone who has a rifle back slung hang off the side of a vehicle, wall or fence by armpit and neck when something got caught as they went over.
for everything else: Im not drawing up plans, I was relaying a concept. Also, we are not picturing the same thing.
I imagine probably not.
Would ask for scribble drawings but don’t want to drag the thread too far off the path so will do without.
Not everyone will be doing the same things. You are insinuating that 1 I dont carry a knife 100% of the time, and 2, Im going to be chasing people over fences and such, and 3 that qd mounts are the end-all must-have sling mount. As I said, like everything else, there is a time and place. For what I do, I dont want a push button qd. Hell, even having a cover over the button so you need a bullet to push it would be a plus. I’ll probably get QD to utilize the mounts, but I would prefer a more permenant style attatchment. I might fix something up with it.
You can make up a scenario to justify anything if you want - that doesnt mean everyone who doesnt do it is ill-informed.
Im done here as I dont want to derail any further.
I prefer the BFG QD’s.