ALG ACT vs. Spikes Battle Trigger

Just like the title says. They are roughly the same price - the Spikes trigger is maybe $5-10 cheaper. From what I’m reading they are pretty similar. Which is better for the money in terms of function and/or reliability? Speak from experience please and not just “fuck Spikes”, etc because I really don’t care about their business practice or price gouging.

I have (2) ACT’s, a QMS, (2) SSA-e’s, a SSA, and a handful of stock fcg’s. The ACT is a good trigger, it’s not a SAA but for $65 it is a very nice upgrade IMHO. I have no experience with the Spike’s but for a budget minded upgrade you won’t be dissapointed with the ACT. Good luck.

Big difference is that Gueiselle (sp) tunes the ACT, while Spikes does coat them, they do not tune them to my knowledge.

Am I the only one put off by Spikes branding it a “Battle Trigger”?

I understand your point but doesn’t ALG call theirs a “Combat Trigger” or some crap? It’s just a sales pitch to make us feel like real “operators” :smiley:

Yea, you’re not wrong. I feel like the word combat implies an unfortunate circumstance you may find yourself in, Battle to me implies you went looking for war :slight_smile: It’s just not a word I would chose to market a trigger with.

ALG. It is well worth the extra $ over the Spike’s trigger. I had 3 different Spike’s triggers when they first came out. The forgings were pretty rough. While the pull was smooth compared to a standard Milspec single stage trigger, there was a good amount of creep in all of the Spike’s triggers I had.

The ALG is as good as it gets for a standard single stage trigger.

Warmonger is the correct term, not battle.

I have a Spike’s Battle Trigger and it’s the nicest GI trigger I have ever used - very smooth, no creep, nice break.

However, I will be testing the ACT in my next build.

If you really want to save some money on an upgraded trigger, try the QMS. It is identical to the ACT minus the coating, and it is a substantial improvement over the GI trigger that came in my DD parts kit. I like mine.

I have zero experience with Spike’s triggers. But, the QMS is the better option in my opinion. The coating means nothing to me. What is important is that the FCG is good quality and the trigger pull is cleaned up to provide a consistent 6-6.5 lb. trigger pull.

I also prefer the QMS. One of the best mil spec triggers I’ve ever had the privilege to use. Clean break and an audible reset. The ACT isn’t worth the extra dough.

The PSA I just ordered has one (the ALG ACT) but sadly I don’t have much trigger time on my old bushmaster to know what a good or bad trigger feels like. I do know I did enjoy the bushmasters trigger, was very clean breaking.

I put about a thousand rounds through a Spikes battle trigger. The nickel boron coating on the trigger sear interface began to chip at 600 rounds. By 1000, it felt like the grand canyon and was the worst trigger pull i had yet felt on an AR. It went back to Spikes for a refund.

The wife’s gun uses an ALG ACT now. 800 rounds on that and no visible wear. The ACT has a crisper break and smoother pull even before the chipping on the Spikes. They are NOT the same. There is a reason that ALG uses dissimilar coatings on the hammer and trigger.

Buy the ALG ACT. You can also buy a JP yellow trigger spring to reduce the trigger pull by just less than a pound. Leave the std ALG hammer spring in place. Boom. Done.

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Will replacing the trigger spring for a lighter pull potentially cause light strikes?

So I guess at this point it’s betwen the ACT and the QMS…

No experience with the Spikes, but when only a few dollars a part, I’d go with the company that has the know-how and true focus in their business to make/tune an excellent trigger - that’s Geissele.

I’ve owned both, and in my use (not super high round count) there was no real difference in feel or function.

I agree with the comments that ALG knows what they’re doing and I would put more trust in them. However, I also think that while Geissele triggers are absolutely wonderful, some companies that make premium products don’t do as well at making value branded products (I realize ALG is a separate company from Geissele), and I think some of the early teething issues with the ACT and selector compatibility may show this.

My best-feeling GI type triggers, even a little better than the ACT I have, are run of the mill uncoated, un-worked-on triggers. One is square-S (LW Schneider) marked, the other are unmarked and probably either DPMS or made by whoever DPMS buys from. (EDIT: these are random good GI triggers, you can just as easily get one that is randomly very bad, I have had those too.) I think the fancy coatings are just about lipstick on a pig, if you can be bothered to apply 1 cent worth of grease to the sear surfaces maybe once a year. If you want a bit more assurance of getting a decent pull out of the box, I’d try the ALG QMS.

BufordTJustice said to replace the trigger spring with a lighter one, NOT the hammer spring. The hammer spring is the spring which affects the sufficiency of hammer/firing pin strikes.

Please read carefully what I wrote. The std power hammer spring is left in place. The trigger spring is what the trigger bow compresses.

Don’t be too short-sighted. Not if you live in Florida with well over 50% humidity INDOORS with AC and regularly over 70-80% outside on a clear summer day. The coatings are nice insurance that even after years of use, the gun will have the same trigger pull.

It’s not for everybody, but it’s also hardly a ripoff. That’s why the QMS is also offered for sale.

If you don’t like 'em, don’t buy 'em. But I and others don’t get to walk inside when it’s raining…so some extra corrosion insurance is nice for a hard-to-reach part that is not very easy to visually inspect the mating surfaces while in the field. Just some perspective.

EDIT: It’s 69 degrees in my living room with the heat on right now and 57% humidity. It’s in the low 50’s outside. The South is brutal on guns and steel in general.