My boss recently asked me about reloading. (I run 2 dillon square deals one for 40 sw and one for 45 acp).
He asked me to price out everything for the biggest baddest highest quality progressive press I would buy for pistol to rifle ammo, Um… Dillon super 1050 with bullet feeder hands down.
Him can it be automated even more? Well ya with a poness-warren auto drive. Him Cost? $850 Oh no big deal figure out the total cost with everything tool heads dies etc. for 40 sw, 45 acp, 223. 308 and my other 3 rifle calibers. Well Okay Boss…
His background He shoots maybe 100rounds total a year out of 6 different firearms total.
Why reload? because He decided at this moment he wants to and He can afford it.
Me, Boss You do know if you screw up you can blow up your gun your face and various other body parts right?
Him Just price it out for me.
He’s from the same family who’s father in-law tasked me to find instructors and someone to design a long distance range out to one mile with steel starting at 600 yards.
Should I just tell him its way overkill, He’ll never use it to 10percent of it capacity?
Should I just do what he wants cause it his money and body parts?
Not help at all and be on bad terms with my boss?but no be responsible in anyway if he blow something up?
Lastly for those of you wondering, Yes I’m on the Clock doing the research and while helping him set it up. and 2nd Yes I’ll get to use it.
You are officially consulting.
Consultants give advice and recommendations based on the needs of the client.
My advice:
Give him exactly what he is asking for.
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There rub… Does he need it? No way in hell. He could simply take the 5 to 7 grand he intends to spend on equipment and buy factory ammo for his 6 firearms and still not use it up in his lifetime (Mid thirties very recreational shooter)
Reloading is a patient man’s hobby. I would first point him in the direction of literature to build his knowledge of reloading. “The ABCs of Reloading” is a great place for him to start. If he blows you off on the reading, then he is more than likely not someone who should get into reloading.
I’ve had people like MDs and Lawyers rolling in dough call up and order a reloading press, full tool heads for like 10 or 12 calibers, and every accessory in the book. I’ve learned to just say “yes sir” when they don’t ask for my opinion. I just ship the stuff to them. If they ask my opinion, I will talk with them and usually get them started off much more cheaply and simply and explain they can add in more calibers as they get experience and want to expand. But the guys who don’t ask advice and just want it all, I say “yes sir” and ship them their stuff.
I agree with F2S on this one.
(btw, I’ll quote you on this if you want 
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At this point your just getting him prices, and it sounds as if your getting paid to do it. Win win in my book. Just let him know if he really wants to get into it the least he should do is read the abc’s of reloading. Let him know if he is not willing to take the time and practice safe loading habits he could possibly injure himself.
Contact Brian enos once you have your list of Dillon products you will need. I.do not know of anyone who can get you a better deal on Dillon especially the set up you might be putting together.
Yup! Sounds like he is the type that won’t take the time to really learn the process, and the press will be collecting dust in short order. Hey, it’s his money and his dust.
Get him a single stage and tell him to man up. :blink:
Is this some kind of end of the world fantasy from your boss? Like, self-reliance and all that? If so then nothing you can do, just forget about the advice.
Otherwise I liked the comment about buying a lifetime’s worth of ammo with that same money. Based on what he sounds like from your description, he might feel just as satisfied sitting on a pile of ammo crates as he would be knowing “I can do it all myself if I have to”. Perhaps throw some advice in that direction.
“Well boss, here’s the tab for what you asked for but I did some checking and it would ALSO buy you…”
No offense but I usually match Enos’s quotes for random calls [since we work off the same rules from Dillon] and on big things will probably beat Enos’s quotes as I tend to be more aggressive when specifically asked for a quote on a large amount or 1050 based stuff.
Price it out but also invite him over to reload 100rds with you, let him borrow a manual, and see if he remains interested or actually reads the book.
Get him all set up. Then make plans to visit him regularly to set it up for him while also running off a few thousand rounds of your own.
How would i get a hold of you when it comes time to order my Dillon gear? It won’t be a 1050 just a rl550 with 4-5 conversion kits, a.strong mount, aluminum roller handle, extra primer tubes, and some whidden gunworks toolheads if you can get them. If not i can get the other stuff from uniquetek.
I would rather give you the business as i have read a considerablecouple of your posts and you are right on with all your advice and have spent a considerable amount of time trying to steer people in the right direction. Even if they end up with Hornady. If you don’t mind could you pm me your contact info i will be looking to make the purchase in the next month or two depending on finances.
Thanks in advance
(I answered stone by PM)