It seems the so called “alt-right” are a bunch of confused leftists, I share nothing in common with these fools.
Jewish boy (late 20’s) I know works here - we’ve talked about Synagogue & Church security issues many times. He DOES security for his Synagogue IN Squirrel Hill (one of two big Jewish communities in Pittsburgh; Mt. Lebanon in the South Hills being the other. The shooter lives in between me & Mt. Lebanon - our three communities are right together; I’ve only been here 16 years, but I’ve NEVER seen this fruitcake in a gun shop, gunshow, gun bash, etc.), but I don’t know if it was THIS synagogue or not - sure hoping he’s OK.
Might be a stupid Q, but armed security? Uniformed? Non? Background?
He’s a 5-Alarm schmuck-up. Unfortunately, the Republicans are running a 6-alarm schmuck-up against him. Hopefully, the big red “T” will save us from Harrisburg, and the 2 blue ‘anchors’ of PA through the NEXT election cycle.
He’s ALWAYS armed - trained - he teaches at their indoor range. But again, I DON’T know if this was his synagogue or not. Or if he was at THIS particular service.
Unlikely… I think this synagogue has an open door policy. No security.
OK - apparently this fudgetard lived in an apartment about 3 miles away from me!!! :eek: Bomb squad is going through his place now - watch it here live - https://www.wpxi.com/live-stream
The death toll from the shooting has gone up to at least 10, according to the Press Association.
… I’ve got a bad feeling one of these is also going to be LEO. Maybe one is the murderer as well.
11 Dead now. 4 LEO injured (update) non-life threatening to LEO.
Just as I predicted last week.
so they are saying the FBI knew him ?
how is it the FBI seems to know so many shooters and yet they still seem to be able to do this ?
just like the boston bombers were known terrorists and they did nothing ?
if this guy was truly known and had issues they need to start doing more BUT how many people are KNOWN ? and is that thrown around as a word to use like assault rifle ?
11 more kids will die today from a cell phone and not watching what they are doing driving ! we have bigger issues that nobody talks about though but this stuff is sad no matter what when innocents get targeted by a nut job
HALF of Utah is a domestic spying repository, but the FBI couldn’t stop a Yugo with stopsticks. I think the FBI spends most of their effort spying on each other’s spouses (a la “True Lies”) :rolleyes:
I was pretty comfortable writing the timing of the attempted bombings off as a coincidence.
That’s probably what this is too, but I’ll admit the portion of my brain devoted to conspiracy theories is now paying a bit more attention.
Because the FBI is a completely worthless organization, staffed by lazy indifferent morons. They prove this time and time again missing events like this when they’re hiding in plain sight, while devoting time and resources to trying to entrap politicians they don’t like and spying on people.
Long past due to disband the agency, and terminate all of them from US Government service.
Prayers up for those impacted by this lunatic. I’ve never been able to grasp why there is so much hate directed to those of Jewish faith. Sad.
movie line " I AM A FBI AGENT" as he is in the back of a van before or after surfing for his undercover work 
reckon real life then hahahahahahahah
yeah they seem pretty worthless and more a tool politicians use as muscle
I too have never understood the whole anti-semtiism thing. I always found the Move-on attack on the 1% a thinly veiled attack on ‘bankers’ which is code for Jews. The Occupy love of Palestinians was a clue too.
So more of an”Info Wars” type guy?
I started a thread just a few days ago saying we were due for a mass shooting, but I thought that was too morbid. Not saying it is a conspiracy or anything like that, just that we haven’t had one recently.
[QUOTE=WillBrink;2670900]3 LEOs shot! Damn. As that too seems to be happening more often I’m wondering if they’re stuck with some new ROE these days?
I don’t think it is a new ROE, I’ve not heard anything earth shaking from the guys I used to work with. Active Shooter response tactics vary. Most response plans are not designed to maximize officer safety at the risk of additional injury to persons inside the location.
If the mass murderer chooses to engage police instead of suicide or surrender, the rapid deployment of police personnel into the area serves to divert the mass murderer’s attention from committing more murders to self-protection from the responding officers. In a textbook response the officers are moving very rapidly, often solo, or in a team of two or three, this increases the danger to them exponentially.
[i]Police give first timeline of attack
Police received calls regarding an active shooter at 9:54 a.m. on Saturday. Officers were sent to the shooting scene one minute later. The suspected gunman, Robert Bowers, spent 20 minutes inside the synagogue before police arrived, FBI Special Agent Robert Jones said.
When Bowers attempted to exit the building, he encountered two police officers and exchanged gunfire with them. Both of the officers were wounded, Jones said. Bowers retreated back into the building to hide from two additional officers who were arriving at the scene.
The two officers engaged the suspect inside the building and one was injured. He eventually surrendered to police and was taken into custody.
“Multiple agencies responded to this incident this morning and without their courage, this tragedy would have been far worse,” Wendell Hissrich, Pittsburgh’s public safety director, said Saturday.[/i]
No matter how much I anticipated the violence we are seeing as we go in to this election cycle, the reality hits and you really begin to become further disappointed in humanity.
I’ve never understood antisemitism.
The suspected gunman, Robert Bowers, spent 20 minutes inside the synagogue before police arrived, FBI Special Agent Robert Jones said.
What da Hell?
I’ve known and worked with federal agents, FBI, IRS, DEA…to say that they are all lazy and indifferent is not thinking critically. Like any organization staffed by people, you have good ones, average ones and bad ones. And, like many organizations, there is an underlying friction/contempt between the worker bee’s and the management.
I think rather than disbanding agencies, the more relevant action might be to step back and consider if their function needs to change due to technology and specialization.
Their are a total of 13,000 FBI Agents and about 20,000 support personnel. Given the situation today, I would tend to think increasing the number of support/technical personnel and concentrating on liaison with state local LE agencies would be a good course for the FBI.
However, there will always need to be Federal LEO’s as long as local LEO’s are not tasked with investigation and enforcement of federal laws.
But let’s consider the anti-Semitic shooter this thread is about. Their are 13,000 agents, I’m pretty sure that there are more than 13,000 bat shit crazy people flashing across the threat radar. Ain’t going to get them all.