ACR training review updated suppressed

Picked up the bushmaster acr about a week after they started shipping, paid right over 2 for it.
I got the acr to be honest because i didnt like it . my plan was to abuse the hell out of it and see how many times i have to send it back. well to start off with i pulled it out the box mounted the flip up, a spare eotech and set the zero

I then decided to brake in the rifle properly with shooting 200 rounds about as fast as i could . So far so good . I heard someone mention that the rem version had problems with a couple of different mags causing BOB failures so i loaded various mags some 20 year old colt mags and ran a few drills with soem local LEOs. But before that i decided the rifle needs to get good and dirty.


gave it a bath is some ditch water ,varified function and decided it needed some more.

Have to get both sides now!

now that its good and muddy inside and out , we warmed up on some some transition drills , malfunction and meltdown drills.then we ran a few bounding drills , peels and two extended officer down drills . Total rounds so far little north of 1200 rounds. i passed the rifle around and everyone thought it was neat and “felt good” what ever in the hell that means. After training a few guys had to go so me and my partner did some shooting around

got a cool shot of the shell being flung out.
All in all i liked the rifle.

Update
Sorry guys I’m doing this from my phone so its a little difficult.
After some of my friends left me and my bud started doing some shooting around various cover. He used the rifle during this drill and at the end of the day he put a little over 600 rounds through it. For a total of a little over 1800 rds.the ammo used was mostly 55gr hot shots, lack city 62gr, 55gr black hills and some 60 gr tap. The rifle was not cleaned at all during the shoot and is still currently not been cleaned(I did wipe down the out side so some of my buds could shoot it.) I was very impressed because I didn’t receive one malfunction. Its trying to take my bulgy krinks place of my most reliable .

My impressions so far is that its a uberreliable well thought out rifle. I do think it is very expensive but I paid more for my lwrci, barret 6.8, and will most likely pay less than the barret 556 that I will add to the safe.
The magpul sights arnt “cheap” they are inexpensive and the reason I say this is because of the quality of the sights. Would I have liked it if it came with micr sight instead of the magpul ones ? Hell yeah.

The whole grip deal is this , I only changed the grip on my other rifles because the magpul grip allows for a storage for the extra bolt. (Always a plus). So I don’t really have any need for gripchangecoolness.

The 1in9 barrel is a well know “leo” twist and I saw no issues. I have some 75 gr goodness ill try out in the future and post the review of my results. The gun is more accurate than I am. I got one and a half groups at 75 yrds off hand.
OMD posted a rtz tig mark on his barrel and ill have to copy this method. I do this normally on anything that screws on my fighting rifle but for other reasons.
Just to note I did not have any barrel “issues” with my ratching system.

I was dissapointed to find that the barrel and bolt are a bit different from an AR barrel because I gutted my 5.45 smith in hopes to have the first 5.45 acr and so it wouldn’t kill my training budget. Oh well such is life.

My two favorite features is the bolt catch and the charging handel. I can keep my firing hand where it needs to be and work the bolt/ malfunction clearnce with the other. I do not use the bolt catch as a release. Caveman simple , I love it.
I can’t tell you how many charging handels iv bent and broken so I how this one live up the the name sake of the rifle. I like the placement more so than the ar and the scar. If seem to scratch my self with the optic mount on the scar. And the acr doesn’t move which is a plus over the scar as I have been bit a few times by it.

I took it back to my training range and did some moving drill to the tune of over 400 rounds. Ill post the pic later. I also took picks of the bolt and all the mudd turned into dirt and its collected in the bottom of the reciever. Still no malfunctions.


Next week ill run a couple hundred rounds through it suppressed and see how its hanging then. I’m not cleaning it till it starts acting shitty

Looks like fun to me.

lol, you would never see these types of threads on other hobby/interest forums.

“hey guys I just bought this $3,000 car. Gonna drive into a wall to test its safety and durability.”:smiley:

Thanks for sharing. I think as more people shoot the ACR, there will be less resentment. Its a good product thus far.

Not the 2nd coming, but still good

I know my opinion of the ACR has been improving since their release.

My initial impressions with it gave it an awful review elsewhere.

As the weeks pass, it seems to be better and I’m warming up to the idea.

I doubt I’ll buy one anytime soon, but I have to admit - my first impressions of it appeared to be wrong and I begin to wonder if perhaps the reason I was so hateful towards it initially was I wanted to hate it because it had been so delayed and wasn’t quite what was expected.

If I was going to drop over $2000 on a 5.56 rifle, it would give the SCAR a run for its money, and I’m not sure which would win.

good to see more and more folks putting up their reviews.

That is awesome! Kudos for really testing it. Hard to do with a new and expensive toy.

I agree

Thus far its been great but I want to really dog it for at least a year or two before I drink the kool aid

I refuse to buy a scar till they start releasing parts for them , which won’t happen

Seriously? Is FN trying to decrease sales?

Edited: Not necessary to post that. People can choose to buy from them or not.

Ask your dealer about the amount of dumb shit he had to buy to get a scar
One of my friends owns the local shot and he wasn’t pleased.

Its sad I really liked the scar .

I was thinking the same thing. I couldn’t agree anymore as this is one of the main reasons I appreciate this forum. Functionality/Durability are key components of all products reviewed here. Gotta love it.

To the OP, thanks for the review much appreciated.

Very cool review, I enjoyed reading. Just one thing, and I’m not trying to be negative, but I have never been too impressed with the “bury in mud” torture test. Unless this debris actually get’s into the weapon, I can’t see it causing a stoppage. All vital components are contained inside the weapon. I think you could probably bury any semi auto in mud and pull it out to find it fires fine. It’s only dirty on the outside afterall.

But, like I said, not knocking you’re post or review. I totally enjoyed it and it sounds like you have a nice weapon. I appreciate you sharing it and look forward to reading more from you. 1,800 rnds of hard shooting with no stoppage or malfunction is an impressive feat in and of itself. Especially when no cleaning was performed.

Oh there was plenty of mudd in the reciever . I had to push it out of the barrel so I wouldn’t blow it up and yes I left it in the reciever the heat dried it out and turned it into sand which is in the bottom of the lower

This is where Bushmaster will kick FN in the gut over time.

Bushmaster has a good history of supporting LEO, Military and civilian. I have no doubt they will sell spare parts and barrels, while FN will continue to neglect lowly civilians.

Credit to FN for releasing new product like the SCAR, FS2000, and PS90, but their policies on spare parts and SBR barrels is beyond full retard in the current market.

Bushmaster launched the ACR very successfully. They shipped a large quantity without any stupid buy in packages. Some people think the “reasonable” prices are due to the gun sucking balls, but I contend its because Bushmaster didn’t shit on their dealers and force them to pay $30,000 to get one ACR. In addition, the quantity released will also deter ass-rape prices.

They played it straight and the prices reflect this.

lowjack,

I noticed in the pic you are using the cheek piece in the elevated position.

Are you having cheek weld issues with the MBUS sights in the up position? I personally thought the sights needed to be a touch lower. When I get my ACR I am going to try the Troy low sights.

Cool, I take that back then. Quite impressive!

I compared (didn’t shoot) the SCAR to the ACR this past weekend. I like the FN better than I thought I would. I did not care for the way the ACR balanced.

Great review…

Love the thrashing you put it thru… Well done…

Good review…I’m digging those ditch pics! :cool: