Picked this up last fall,
somewhere around 1200 rds, think I was lubing it occasionally, It worked so I never bothered to clean it.
Well around 1500, I field stripped cleaned it, as in Brake cleaner, brush down the bore, fancy oil it came with.
Around 2000 I got bored gave it a good wipe down.
It functions fine should I change my routine?
Iām not the worldās foremost expert on handguns or firearms in general. Iām getting that out of the way as a means of qualifying what Iām about to say and as a disclaimer.
Now for my 2 cents:
Assuming we are discussing modern firearms used with modern, non-corrosive ammunition, I think the necessity of cleaning guns is highly overrated by most.
I was brought up around firearms and was taught that you clean them after every trip to the range/woods/what have you. That included running brushes and patches down the bore of rifles to make them nice and shiny. Iāve since learned that we probably did more damage to the bore of those guns by cleaning them than we could ever have done by simply shooting them.
These days I spend the majority of my time shooting a few polymer semi-auto pistols. I donāt really worry about cleaning them. I usually field strip them, wipe them down (primarily to keep my hands from turning black when I handle them), ensure there isnāt a bunch of crud caked under the extractor, and then I generously lubricate them and reassemble. Thatās about it for maintenance. A couple of times a year I will actually break down and clean the bore with Hoppes and a brass brush.
I used to be the guy who went to training courses and while everybody else was having dinner together, Iād be in my hotel room furiously cleaning my guns. I went through a 5 day handgun course with my 1911, for example, and as a group from the class was gathering to go eat I was at the table in the bunkhouse with my 1911 detail stripped going after every fleck of carbon on the gun. Some time later I did another 5 day, 3,000 round course with my 1911 and I didnāt clean my gun once during the class. I simply lubed it three times a day and you know what? It ran just as good.
Now if for some reason I have to hop into a pond of chest deep water to retrieve a small child and some farm equipment (in that order) while Iām wearing my handgun, Iāll go to greater lengths, but thatās just what you have to do when you get the gun waterlogged.
If you ensure that the weapon is properly lubricated odds are that you can go several thousand rounds without needing to do much in the way of actually cleaning the gun. When you finally do clean the gun it may be a bit of a chore to get rid of all the accumulated crud, but I simply get rid of enough of it to ensure proper function and drive on. The problem I see more often than not is folks who donāt clean or maintain their magazines. They donāt need to be given a white-glove-inspection cleaning after each range trip, but a couple of times a year you should break them down and clean them out. Youād be amazed how much crud accumulates in them from daily carry.
That gun looks clean compared to my Baerā¦i think everything looks good thoughā¦i love a dirty gun.
The only thing i would do is replace that guide rod with a GI style guide/plugā¦i found it helps in clearing malfunctions or if a casing gets stuck
Yup, I agree. Cleaning guns is over rated. I shot 800+ rounds at an ITTS class in February in the rain and my P2000 ran just fine. I think the 2000 round challenge is part of my cleaning routine. 
that gun looks clean to me.
The break cleaner on the 416 stainless barrel might be abuse.
cleaning is over-rated in general, but not around here. itās quickly becoming one of the most under rated components to reliability.
iām not trying to start, nor will i engage in, another damn cleaning debate. but i feel compelled to insert my dissenting opinion that cleaning is, in fact, an important component to weapon reliability, and cant believe that people who would otherwise always recommend tactics and equipment of the highest degree of small-percentile reliability, yet then turn around and advise against cleaning.
will most guns run much, much dirtier than we were all taught to keep them? certainly. but every weapon has a limited number of rounds it can fire without malfunction before cleaning. i dont care if itās 500 rounds, 5,000 rounds, or 50,000 rounds- this statement is a fact. from what iāve seen, most automatic firearms around somewhere between 1,000 and 5,000. for simplicity, letās say itās 1,000- every round you fire takes you one round closer to failure. 999 to go, 998, 997, 996, etc, etc, 300, 299, 298, etc, etc, 3, 2, 1ā¦ CLICK. the problem is, you have no idea, in advance, when that click will come. no matter how you shake it, every round you fire without cleaning is, quite literally, reducing the reliability of your gun.
instead of all this preaching against cleaning and using of over-simplified statements which are invariably taken completely out of context by the uninitiated, such as ācleaning is over-rated,ā all the way to āi basically donāt clean anymore,ā and āi have better things to do than sit around cleaning my gunsā¦ā etc, etcā¦ why wouldnāt we simply begin teaching the proper way to clean? people who make statements like this vary widely in their own cleaning habits. a person stating ācleaning is over-ratedā might be a person who detail cleans every 1,000 rounds, cleans after every range session but only lightly cleans, or who never cleans at allā¦ so the statement, by itself, is totally worthless in a real conversation about cleaning and itās importance. the individual asking the question can infer just about anything from these āphilosophies.ā
clean your guns. you donāt need to spend an hour after every range session, but you still need to keep them reasonably clean at all times. you have no idea under what circumstances you might find yourself needing the thing. you pride yourself on maintaining a constant state of readiness for any situation you possibly can- thats why you buy expensive/quality guns and shit, and itās why you practice, and fire thousands of rounds a year, its why you spend thousands on training classes and do your own field research on loobs and holsters and reload techniques and clothing selections, itās why you research terminal ballistics and select loads based on their performance. most of these things being, by themselves, very small increases in your overall state of combat effectiveness- fine tuning. why would you then deliberately neglect your weapon for sake of being able to nonchalantly say, āas a cool kid, i donāt clean.ā
moderation, gentlemen. donāt backlash against years of incorrect method by leaping into a different incorrect method.
Amazing how detail stripping fades away as you get more experienced/older/more lazy. I confess to being all three at times.
For my Glocks, I field strip and wipe down/out obvious crud, re lubricate and re assemble after most range sessions. If it my carry gun or a 1911, I am a bit more detail oriented.
I detail strip my pistols 1x a year during the month of March, kind of a spring cleaning.
As I have switch to grease as my primary lubricant, my every Sunday night field stip and re-lubricate program has been discontinued.
Iām not cool or anything, but Iām at the point where Iāve stopped cleaning. I simply donāt shoot any one gun enough for it to matter. Iāll typically give each gun an honest 10k and the guns I buy these days arenāt going to stop that soon (with or without lube). Beyond that, Iāve probably moved on to a different gun. However, if a part breaks, I will try to clean that half of the gun as a courtesy to the armorer.
i clean and relube my carry guns every time i shoot them. 1 or 2 passes of a bore snake, wipe down the inside of the slide and frame with a paper towel, lightly relube with militec. a clean gun works better. if i need to depend on it, iād rather have it clean. it takes 5 minutes.
I religiously clean/lube guns I use for duty and/or carry. If its a range toy, then I clean it about every 500-1000 rounds.
My opinion is that like many things in life, you must strike a balance. You donāt drink the whole bottle everytime you have a whiskey, do you? You donāt change the oil in your car every 1,000 miles, do you?
Of course not.
Lube enough. Clean enough. Itās really that simple.
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This is what I donāt comprehend
Why should any modern pistol, such as my EB built with the latest greatest forged metals & cnc machines.
Require more detailed cleaning & inspections , remember the gun was originally designed as a weapon of war to be used in the worst possible conditions with soldiers of questionable cleaning & hygiene procedures ( take that with a grain of salt unless you were actually around in the early 1900ās as a horse soldier).
When did the militaryās attitude of it must be spotless to function actually become The Status Quo concerning weapons?
Why should a weapon of war need more attention that a weapon for LEOās (that is comparatively speaking rarely used in the same nasty environments)?
Speaking personally, I donāt.
It has nothing to do with what I can say to anyoneā¦itās based on what Iāve learned and observed over the years. Itās based on the experience and teaching of much smarter people than me who put their weapons through a hell of a lot worse than I do on a continual basis.
I whip out the Hoppes and the toothbrushes when my guns need it. Otherwise I simply wipe off most of the objectionable crud and lube them generously. Experience has shown me that frequent cleaning isnāt necessary for most handguns. Frequent lubrication, on the other hand, does wonders to promote reliability. Should someone go ten thousand rounds without cleaning? Not at all. Should they be in a hurry to clean their Glock 17 after an 800 round course lest it fail them? Not at all.
If you keep the gun lubricated and keep the accumulation of crud around critical areas like the extractor to a minimum, if the gun is worth a darn it will run for X thousand rounds without much problem. Should folks try and push the envelope of how long their carry gun will run before it shuts down? Of course not.
i wasnāt implying you do. but you have to admit thereās definitely some āfanboyismā surrounding this new trend, with people taking it to the extreme.
its the extreme that bugs me, and that doesnāt make any sense.
I hear what many are saying in terms of maintenance, and agree. However, Iām hard wired to clean/maintain a weapon after use, and I like cleaning guns. 
i think 1000 rounds is a reasonable cleaning interval for a carry gun. personally itās rare i go over 300. theyāre a lot easier to clean if there isnāt caked on crud. :o i rarely use anything harsher than a paper towel and a bore snake on my pistol. gonna take awhile to wear through the tenifer i think.
I agree.
There seem to be a lot of people that see the heavy volume shooters on this site, and think it is cool to post a filthy neglected weapon as some sort of badge of hardcoreness.
ETA: Iām not talking about the OP here.
Thereās a difference between saying F-it because you will be running another 500-1000 rounds out of the gun in the next week, and being a low volume shooter that lets your weapon sit around for months with a bunch of build-up on it.
I generally only shoot 250 a week out of a G19. It honestly takes me about 15 minutes to do a full detail strip and cleaning while I am watching TV. As JW said, I mainly just do it because I donāt want my pistol to drip nasty shit all over the house.
nasty lead shit all over the house, at that.
if your gun is leaking mud on you, gentlemen, youāre spreading lead all over the place.
Certainly, todayās polymer guns are generally more simply constructed, and are made of more advanced and self-lubricating material than, say, a century-old design such as the 1911.
And, as others have said, I was wired from kid-dom by my Granddad to keep tools clean, sharp and ready to use, including guns.
I think itās great that many guns today will fire a gazillion rounds w/o any problem.
I also think thereās a reason the ownerās manual suggests cleaning and lubing instructions.
I think thereās a reason most folks that go in harmās way are pretty anal about firearms maintenance.
Some people keep their knives sharp, their guns clean, and check the air in their tires. Others donāt.
I clean my guns after shooting them, unless Iām in a multi-day class, and then Iāll do like JW777, and just check and lube them, cleaning them thoroughly when I get home. Iām happier and more confident with a clean gun.
But I donāt check the tires as often as I should.
I have also seen post as: āI just tore my gun down and saw that my trigger pin,firing pin stop, ejector, etc. was cracked. Wonder when that happened?ā I want to know immediatly when that happens and replace it ASAFP. Regular detail stripping lends itself to that.
This is a different ballgame for the folks that have training guns and SD guns. I want to buy another G19 and use one for training and the other for SD. When I do, the former might get treated like a red-headed stepchild, but until then I am not going to gamble with my primary SD weapon.