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Vickers Tactical
Advanced Pistol / Carbine Class
June 17-19, 2010
U.S. Training Center, Moyock, NC.
Nobody posted yet so here is a quick AAR – folks who attended please fill in the gaps.
Another fine course at the US Training Center. Not quite what it used to be, but still a great facility. This class was geared toward more advanced students. Quite visible from the caliber of the students observed. It was really great to see lots LAV alumni as well as meet some dialed-in new folks.
Day 1 – All pistol. Mostly Glocks except an issue Beretta Vertec, an issue Sig and one XD that LAV didn’t even rag on. All performed quite well. Temps were in the upper 90s – very hot and very draining as you can imagine.
Covered the LAV’s favorite of trigger squeeze and its evil enemy, el snatcheroo. Everyone was pretty dialed-in. Ball and dummy drills, time drills, trigger reset drills and the “Humbler.”
Most of the concepts were applied in team drills and a walk back that went back all the way and ended in a tie at approx 120m!
Day 2 – Mostly carbine. Very hot again…
LAV reviewed some of the setups seen in the class. To his pleasure, most optics were Aimpoints. A couple of Trijicons TR24s and Eotechs as well. Started with dialing in at 25m and zeroing/confirming at 100m. LAV had some discussions of different distances to zero and recommended 100m as best all around. Next we covered timed drills at different distances in different positions, working our way all the back.
LAV had us concentrate on accurate well placed shots as opposed to firing fast, wasting ammo and not on target.
Some transition work and shooting on the move completed the day. Oh, and barriers…lots of focus on barriers! Barriers and team drills with barriers. With 5 barriers lots of movement from barrier to barrier.
Day 3 – Principles of both pistol and carbine with firing at the movers and firing from vehicles. Temps wise very nice…though I sucked!
We got to partake in some of the benefits of US Training Center. Firing at the steel movers, carbine and pistol. We had some technical difficulty but that what easily remedied my moving to a range close down the road. Moving targets requires you to concentrate on the leading edge and not stopping to fire but continuing to follow through. Naturally this lead to team drills where pressure was on.
During the course LAV discussed his warning against using steel for most training. Concentrating on accuracy of the bulls eye contrasted with variance of shots landing at opposite corners. Just overlay target against an upper torso piece of cardboard and its self-evident.
We proceeded to fire at both static steel and then from the mover in pairs on the back of Paul’s truck moving across the range from side to side(Larry had remodeling going on in the back of his truck this go round). Just like the “Humbler,” this was a true eye opener at many levels.
All in all – class was great and as mentioned, caliber of personnel attending excellent. This can easily be said by class veterans and well as newbie’s(who mostly were not new to good training).
Thanks Larry and Paul.












































































































