AAR - Magpul Dynamics - Handgun 1 - Portland, OR (June 5-7th 2010)

Magpul Dynamics / Dynamic Handgun 1
June 5-7th / Douglas Ridge Rifle Club (Portland, OR)

This marks my third class with the Magpul Dynamics’ crew, and despite how much more I love shooting carbine over handgun I would rank this specific class as my most favorite thus far. I won’t try to summarize the whole course, as the other AARs do a great job of that already. Right up front I want to thank Chris Costa, Anson Beck, the RSOs and Douglas Ridge, and the students for making this class go off so well. As the host it’s my job to do my best to make sure the stage is set to let MD help us get our learnin’ on, and by all accounts we had a hell of a class.

Primer

I’m going to interject a personal opinion here when I say that I used to really dislike shooting handgun do to a lack of skill and appreciation for what is one of the most important weapon systems we can have. When we sat down at the end of Carbine 1 to figure out which classes we were going to bring out to Oregon, Handgun 1 was the first on the list. This was prior to Art of the Dynamic Handgun being released, and I’m sure in its wake the demand for handgun classes will increase dramatically.

Our instructors for the weekend were Chris Costa, and Anson “Hollywood” Beck. This is the third class with Chris, and first with Anson, and again I nor my fellow students were disappointed. Chris brings a world class level of shooting talent, followed by a real knack for motivating and educating students. This was my first class with Anson, and just from this class I can tell you that I hope to see him at future classes. Besides being a great shooter, he brings a level of instruction and personability that lends itself to teaching by method of carrot and not stick.

The whole of the class can be best described as a steady ramping up of skill sets and the building upon of each drill that came before it. So when you get time to run the final drills of the day it’s a culmination of all the skill building that’s come before. This is consistent with every other class I’ve taken with the MD crew, whereupon they’re giving you a set of experiences to quickly reference when presented with a situation that requires quick and improvised problem solving. That at it’s core is what these classes are about, being able to not panic and fumble under dynamic stress, but on the fly be able to adapt your shooting position, mechanics, and mindset to overcome an unforeseen problem or situation.

Gear / Students

The total class count was 21 students. All from varied backgrounds, we had national guard, an USAF airman, LEOs, competition shooters, and regular civilians. I was also extremely pleased to have 2 women in our class, as I’ve long been eager to see ladies get the opportunity to build these skill sets. And to everyone’s credit people rocked the shit out of this course. Everyone started with varying levels of skill set, some guys could hit the center green every single time, whereas some of us had to work a lot harder at it. Chris had a saying that “we don’t train you to the lowest common denominator!” And that sums it up well, the slowest shooter doesn’t set the curve. There was no curve. Simple as that.

The majority of students were using glocks, 19s, 17s, etc. We had a few 1911s, about 5-6 SIGs, 1 XD, a couple of USPs, and 1 M&P. Seriously, only ONE M&P handgun. I was really surprised as I was that lone M&P shooter. More on that in a bit.

Holsters ran the spectrum of 5-6 Raven Phantoms, a few Galcos, a few Serpas, safarilands, bladetechs, etc. I personally used Comptac mag pouches with my RCS holster, in combination with an ARES Gear Ranger belt. I have a few equipment issues I’ll talk about on Day 3.

Day 1

Prior to TD1 Portland had experience 21 consecutive days of rain. As the host I’ll be honest and say the week leading up to the class I think the most common webpage I visited was weather.com …nervously… There was a low fog the morning of when we went in for the initial meet and greet. By the time we walked out the weather was glorious, absolutely stunning. Costa and Beck imported some great weather with ‘em.

Due to a reshuffling in the morning agenda that prevented us from live fire before 0900, Chris decided to begin the Combat Mindset portion (normally reserved for lunch on Day 2) . This was actually a positive as it allowed Chris and Anson to use it as a touch stone for how our brains, eyes, and body were working when we fumbled or worked to execute a drill. This also opened up the following lunch time periods to a lot of discussions and demonstrations.

Day 1 can best be summed up as learning to crawl before you can run. We started the day out on simple dot drills just to get a baseline for how were were shooting at 3-5yds. For some of us that was a sobering gut check to see how much we had to improve. Chris then dove in to the fundamentals of grip, sight picture, and trigger control. Specifically how you can lose one of those 3 key fundamental groups and be able to be effective for a short period, but ultimately how they tie in to make a complete process.

To demonstrate trigger pull and reset we practiced ball and dummy drills with partners. The most interesting drill of the day was one that is absolutely simple to do with a shooting partner. We unloaded our firearms, and had a partner put an empty casing on the front sight of the pistol, while the shooter remains steady they pull the trigger. The object being to keep the casing balanced. If you jerk the trigger it’s an obvious indicator you did it wrong by the casing falling off.

Just because it’s handgun 1 it doesn’t mean that the big toys don’t come out. Because Leupold is located in the Portland area we had the chance to demo the new 1.1-8x CQBSS optic. Simply put it’s amazing, absolutely amazing. We put this on my KAC SR-25 EMC and did some impromptu demos with it. Chris also had a new .308 on hand he wanted to get some time on (JP .308).

We then rounded out the day by working on the process of the draw, admin reloads, tac reloads, speed reloads, and different shooting positions such as dynamic kneeling.

Day 2

Now when I said the weather was great on day 1, well it was, ‘was’ being the operative word. As I woke up for day 2 I was greeted by the familiar sound of pouring rain. As I drove to the range I hoped that things would ease up in the 20 miles between Portland Metro and Eagle Creek. Suffice it to say it was varying between heavy rain, sprinkles, fog, and some sun, all day. This did force a change in curriculum by Chris and Anson. And to their credit we didn’t slow down at all during the bad weather periods.

In fact most students really enjoyed shooting in the rain. As natives of the pacific northwest it rains here a lot, and I mean a LOT! So learning to shoot with a jacket on is a powerful skill set. Normally TD3 is where a lot of the concealed work is handled, but we had to move prone and urban prone to day 3 so that students were wallowing around in the mud. I was easily in the muddiest part of the range and yet still enjoyed the hell out of that experience. When speed reloading my mags would disappear in to syrupy pools of mud. I remember crouching down, pulling a mag put, upending it, and having what looked like Hershey’s chocolate syrup come streaming out. I turned around, and Chris just looked at that and smiled. Good day to see what you and your gun could continue doing.

We spent day 2 working on the beginnings of moving and shooting, specifically learning to turn to face a target, the 180 degree, and one handed shooting. A lot of us from day 1 to day 2 back slid on our groups, so Chris and Anson had us tape up our front and rear sights to practice instinctive shooting. Learning when to use the sights, and when not to do so. For many of us we shot better with no sights, or no rear sights. In fact only when we took the tape off did our accuracy go down. It was a dramatic demonstration of how our eyes actually can work against us. We then moved on to malfunctions and how to properly identify, and rectify them. Again not just text book, “if it feels like this do that,” but understanding what’s happening and the fundamentals of how to problem solve quickly.

Day 2 ended on the El Presidente drill. I’ve done this drill many times before, but what made this one unique was standing in front of 20 other students, 2 instructors, 4-6 RSOs, and still making your hits. I didn’t see anyone come away from that drill who wasn’t amped up and with shaking hands afterwards. There’s something about standing in front of your peers, and instructors that makes what is normally a routine drill in to a different beast. It created a sense of “I can’t screw this up.” Some students slowed down under the pressure, some sped up, we had a 1911 shooter with a out of battery issue who immediately smacked the back of his slide to get the gun up and running again. Again calling back to those skill sets that we were learning only hours before.

Day 3

If Oregon is one thing, it’s odd weather. As quickly as the rain had come, it was gone once again. If Day 1 was gorgeous, Day 3 turned out to be stunning. 75 degrees, with a nice breeze. You couldn’t ask for anything more, even despite the ground being a little soft from the rain.

The final day was all about moving and shooting. This is what everyone wants to do on day 1, but doesn’t have the skill sets to do safely or effectively. This is however the pay off to everything we learned previously. Day 3 began with our shooting template, starting at 3yds, back further, 25, then 35, then 50yds. Using this as a baseline we knew where we were shooting and what we needed to focus on.

Chris and Anson then took us slowly in to different shooting positions like supine, prone, and urban prone, and how to draw and drop in to those positions safely and effectively. Building upon that we moved in to offline of attack, and shooting while moving forward, backwards, left and right, all the while tapping the ability to reload, address problems dynamically without shutting down.

I did come to the conclusion that my gear was working against me. I love me the Raven holsters. But the FBI style cant on mine forced me to roll my right shoulder back aggressively and lean in to the target when drawing, wasting time and motion. It’s something that Chris pointed out to me in late January when I attended Carbine 1/2 in San Jose, and I never got around to replacing the holster with the straight/magpul dynamics cut. Also Chris pointed out that the body shield had given him some issues in the past, and could tell it was giving me issues in my draw. So now I have a MD cut version of the Phantom LC on order for my M&P. But I’ll modify my current Phantom to get the best use out of it till the new holster arrives.

I also found my Comptac pouches were a bit finicky on draws. Specifically unless you get a perfect and straight upward pull the magazines can bind. Where this really bit me was when urban prone on the last drills of the day, so I’ll most likely continue to experiment till I find something that works best for me.

As mentioned the final drills of the day were set up as 5 firing stations, with 3-4 shooters per station, running each station 2-3 times, going back, topping off magazines, then rotating to the next station.

Station one was all about shooting from behind a vertical barricade, running up, obtaining a sight picture, taking a shot, getting behind cover, shoot, repeat, then doing it again kneeling.

Station two had us working behind a horizontal barricade, keeping us aware of being behind cover on reloads. This station really gave me some trouble as I get kept mud sucked right up to the wall, whereas I should have been further back utilizing cover. Anson pointed this out and worked with me to help make me aware of what I was doing wrong, and why I was doing it.

Station three had us working the urban prone by engaging standing targets then dropping below two barrels to engage on our sides on ground targets.

Station 4 had us working ports as we engaged 4 targets in a string, standing, crouching, and kneeling.

Station 5 had us working and improved El Prez drill against 3 steel targets in different orders.

Each station combined problem solving and skill sets that we’d seen individually over the past few days but were now seeing applied in one overarching strategy. The day ended with a final de-brief, certificates, and ultimately the mission to keep bettering our skills and to not settle for being comfortable in how we shoot, but to always keep “climbing the ladder of excellence.”

Conclusions

As I said from the get go, I used to enjoy shooting a carbine a lot more than a handgun. But I don’t carry a carbine on me day to day. I carry a handgun, and thus being proficient out of the holster, on target, and on the move is a supremely applicable skill set. Looking at LEOs and MIL, who were in our class, these are skill sets that are not only applicable but required for their daily lives. By the end of this class I had a new appreciation for the handgun, how to run it, and a better understanding of where my strengths and weaknesses lay as a shooter, and ultimately how to get better and better.

Something I learned from the last Carbine class was that I’m fast to my gun, fast on reloads, but I’m violently fast. The time advantage I have getting to my gun, mags, and reloading is offset by wasted motion. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. That’s something quantifiable I can take to the range and work on correcting. The thing about these classes is that everyone loves to get a compliment on a particular performance during a drill or at the end of the class from Chris or Anson. That’s great and all, but I think any good student worth their weight looks forward to a criticism, because that’s where they’ve screwed up, and it’s an opportunity to understand WHY you screwed up, and HOW to fix it.

Again major thanks to another great weekend spent with Chris, Anson, and 20 other wonderful students. I always regret not meeting and talking with everyone on the line. The students really make the class, they set the pace, and they determine how far into the material we can go. Even despite pouring rain or mud, you guys kicked ass. Thank you to Magpul Dynamics for coming out to our neck of the woods. Not one student came away from that class NOT elevated in skill set and eagerness to keep advancing.

Random Observations

Seriously I was the only guy with the M&P?! Come on?! The Pro did great, and got passed around a lot to show off Ben (Boresight Solutions) stippling work that Chris mentioned as a helpful tool for shooters. I only lubed that gun once the day before, I never cleaned, re-lubed, or cleaned out the magazines. I ran muddy mag after mag through that gun, the inside looked like a rape victim, and it kept on firing.

Lunch times don’t imply you sit around. On all three days we broke out the .308 rifles. In fact on TD3 Chris and I did a tandem shoot on a steel salute plate that was the highlight of the whole weekend for me. I don’t think I’ve ever grinned wider than that, with the class clapping after the demo.

Rain is a great thing; if you’re uncomfortable you’re in a great position to learn what you do when conditions aren’t perfect. You don’t get to choose when you get in to a gunfight in the real world.

Watch out for Chris’ ‘geek checks.’ I know by now not to get baited in to them. Watch out, he’s crafty.

Also Chris makes any gun look awesome:

Photos:

Day 1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isaac_marchionna/sets/72157624087676707/
Day 2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isaac_marchionna/sets/72157624231927026/
Day 3: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isaac_marchionna/sets/72157624108864511/

Special thanks to Kristine Sun @ The Armory Group for running my camera the whole weekend!

Interesting. They did the same thing in the Norwegian military except they used coins on the front sight. I suppose an empty casing would be even less balanced for more sensitivity to horrible trigger control.

I’d really want to get a class like this. I guess step 1 is to move to a place where handguns aren’t regulated the same way as weaponized plutonium. :rolleyes:

Great pics. :cool:

please explain the geek check

Simply put it boils down to this, let me give you a scenario from day 1:

Chris: “Guys when you track targets you’re not shifting your whole bodies to the target, you’ll gun turret, you know…like those robot things from those videos games…what are they called…I’m struggling to remember the name…”
Student: “Mechwarriors”
Chris: “Geek check! Geek, right there! Right…there! I would have also accepted AMP suit from Avatar!”

First off thanks to Chris and Hollywood. Im a LEO with lots of training in my background. Chris’ attention to detail is second to none. These are the tools, I will use to save my life or the life of another. Why? The training all has a logical reason of why we are doing this at this moment.

For me the high light. Running the gun when it is not working. Ya its fun to shoot. But there will a time a the near future, and in that time you better be able to fix that shit and move on.

“Im offensively trying to put that guy down!” This is tattoo in my heart for life. Maybe its the job or maybe, Im a father and husband first.

My survive ability and understanding of my Life Line is at a whole new level. On two levels mentally and physically.

Life saving tools for some in harms way.-SM

Very nice pics. Plus great overview on your 3 days of training. Thanks.

Fantastic write-up and photos. Yes, Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback on your experience!:slight_smile:

The MagPul pistol class is definitely on my list. Great to hear that you enjoyed it. I had a couple of questions for you.

How many rounds of pistol ammunition would you recommend? Also, how many magazines did you use for the training (would you recommend)?

Thanks
SkiDevil

P.S.

Just curious,
Was there any mention made when the Leupold optic would be available for sale? Retail/ Steet Price? What did you think of the reticle?

Ski, I shot 1850 rounds of PMC 9mm 115gr. The class req is for 2000 rounds. I’ve never shot all the required rounds in a class, however I did run empty in the Carbine 1/2 right at the end because Chris and Travis had to borrow some 5.56 off me as their supplied ammo was giving them problems

I used 10 17rnd magazines. Considering the capacity of the magazines you’ll want at least 4 mags on you, then you’ll run back and top off. I always kept 4-5 loaded mags besides the mags I was topping off in case Chris or Anson needed my help and I didn’t have time to load them before the next drill.

As for the CQBSS, I didn’t have a ton of time with it, we never got it zeroed as we just didn’t have the time to properly bench and see how it was printing. That said the reticle is pretty complicated yet super simple. It’s easy to put dot on target and make it go bang, but complicated when you need to range a target. The horus reticle is amazing.

As for price, I think KevinB made mention that it’s over the 5K mark. However the damn thing was designed for CAG guys. But I can say, without any hype or smoke blowing, that it’s probably the most amazing short dot I’ve ever looked through. The fact that we had it mounted on my EMC was cool enough, that and it basically doubled the cost of the gun! :eek:

2K rounds, check. I was figuring that or a little more.

When I go to their class, I was planning on taking (2) SIG 226s and 12 (15) mags.

Good info. in the write-up about the holster. I will have to look mine over as well.

Thanks for the insight on the Leupold scope, but at 5K that is definitely out of my range. But how knows, maybe like RobS mentioned in Kevin’s thread it is always possible there may be less expensive version produced later. Otherwise, I will keep saving up for the S&B Short Dot.

Take it easy.

BTW, that is one beautiful range up there! Down here in SoCal, almost all of our ranges are rock and dirt. Man, I hope I can retire someplace Greener someday!:eek:

I can’t comment on the price. It was designed for guys who kick in doors then have to run up to a roof and take long range shots. It’s pretty specific which gun this scope was also designed for, as the stock turrets are calibrated for M118LR rounds.

Again hopefully the tech filters down.

Thanks for the compliments on our range. It’s quite nice, despite the range not having been mowed for a few weeks. Dirt ranges are nice too, but you gotta give it up for the picturesque ones occasionally.

Great review… and great pics… for some reason I really love the pic of Chris with the M1A… makes me miss the old beast:D

Hey you said that there was an XD in the class do you know of any problems or complaints from the student who had it? Just wondering as whenever I finally get a chance to take a MD class it will probably be what I will be shooting.

Some of the student’s mags were giving his gun problems. The baseplate fell off and the whole mag fell apart on a speed reload.

Damn I need to see what I could do to make sure they aren’t going to do this to me:D

Any idea when they’re coming back? I live in the area and was pissed that I couldn’t attend the class.

2011’s schedule is being mulled over as we speak. We will have them back, for which class is being debated. The classes fill up FAST.

Can’t Wait to take this class. Great pics

Great AAR! We will be there next year for sure. Geek Checks…gotta love em.