A quick hello, and an Aimpoint question: M4s or T1...

Tactical Gear Optics & Mounts
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I am new here, as you can see by my post-count. I’ve been lurking a little while, and decided to join up recently because unlike some other gun sites, this place doesn’t make me feel like a raindrop falling into the ocean. I’ve read some great info here, and thanks to Rob’s Milspec comparison chart, decided to make my first purchase an LMT from Steve Morrison at M.A.R.S. Armament.

Now here’s my quandry: I’m currently in the process of deciding whether to go with a 16" barrel or SBR. I am in talks with a lawyer about a trust, and will get help from an experienced buddy (GentleBen) with the Form 1–IF I decide to go NFA.

In doing my research here, I’ve learned that my best choice for an optic (for my needs) will be either an Aimpoint CompM4(s) or possibly a T1.

So here’s my question: Which sight would be the better option if I decide to go with a 10.3" barrel? Would the CompM4(s) still be an ideal all-around sight, or is the T1 really a better option there.

I will be using this gun for possible HD, training, possible zombie-slaying, and picking off enemies from my rooftop. (JK) I like the fact that the M4(s) uses readily-available AA bats, and that those bats will be able to be stored in my Emod Stock. Conversely, I DON’T like that the T1 uses the coin-shaped batteries. However, I do understand that with the ACET technology, I really won’t have to change my batteries very often anyway.

I have read Jeff’s review, as well as the thread by Katar, but I’m really looking for any advice based on my own personal needs/uses.

I appreciate your info, and your time.

Thanks,

Jason

ETA: I forgot to mention that my gun will have a milspec front sight, and rear Troy folding battle-sight. Would I need the tall LaRue mount (659), the medium, or the short? Thanks.

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https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25529

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G@$ D@**%#…

I was TRYING not to be redundant with my first post, and lookie there. :rolleyes::o

Thanks, Katar. I see some useful info there, but what about the Rifle/SBR question? And can anyone offer insight about which height LaRue I should grab? Here’s the info concerning my front sight…

Front sight is the military spec, fixed A frame sight/gas block

Thanks

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The barrel length is really irrelevant when it comes to mounts. For the T1 on my 16" M4, I use the tall Larue mount.

It offers a perfect lower 1/3 cowitness with the iron sights.

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Actually, I was wondering what height would be better taking this into consideration:

“Front sight is the military spec, fixed A frame sight/gas block”

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Depends on whether you want an absolute cowitness (irons in the middle of the optic window) or lower 1/3 cowitness (irons in the lower 1/3 of the optic window). Choosing between the two is strictly personal preference.

With the T1, the tall Larue mount is the only real option since the other two Larue T1 mounts are too low. I also have an AR with an Aimpoint M2 and I have the standard Larue mount which works well for me.

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I’m not sure what I want yet, as I haven’t ever tried the particular combo I’m looking at. I guess that might be something I have to figure out when I get the gun.

Anyone have any insight to offer?

Btw…thanks, DRich.

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Anyone running an SBR with an M4s and a military spec, fixed A frame sight/gas block? What are your preferences in terms of optic height?

Thanks, people.

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I’m partial to absolute (M4S with NV height LT mount, and Aimpoint Micro with ADM Co mount).

I shoot NTCH, and my cheekweld is comparatively very low.

Most folks are happiest with the SOCOM height, as it lets you see over the irons if you want to shoot with the most intuitive sight picture. My brain seems to compute better with the front sight tip inside the dot - go figure.

If you’re unsure, just try snapping up to a comfortable shooting position with your eyes closed about 50 times, then open your eyes as you focus ahead of you beyond the rifle. If you naturally like up just below the rear sight aperture, absolute might be the ticket. If you’re just above, or looking beyond the front sight immediately, the lower 1/3 is probably ideal for you, but this is NOT conclusive in any way.

I’ve tried the lower 1/3, and I fully understand the merit of setting things up that way - I just don’t find it to be natural

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Thanks for the advice TehLlama…I appreciate any insights shared with me. I guess, since I already bought a high mount, I can try lower 1/3 first, and then if I find it to be unnatural for me, I can sell/trade it and buy the mid-height one.

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If weight matters get the micro T1/H1.

If it’s concern but doesn’t matter that much get the M4S. I have 3 H1s, 1 T1, and 1 R1 and 1 M4S. On Monday I was shooting less than 1/2 MOA groups at 50yds off the bench and then hitting a 8" steel plate at 200yds 9 out of 10 times. using the M4S 2MOA dot.

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I was hoping you or USMC03 would chime in. Thanks.

Here’s my deal: This is going to be my first carbine. I like to do a LOT of research before I buy, and after reading around here I decided to spend the money and get a top-quality gun, however now my head’s knotted up about whether to SBR it or stay with a middy. In speaking with a good friend whose judgement I trust, it was suggested to me that if I was only going to have 1 AR (for a while at least) it would be better to stick with the middy and maybe build an SBR or pistol out of the lower I have in my safe.

I think that’s decided now, and that means it’ll most-likely be the m4 or m4s, if I can find one used or trade into one.

Btw, thanks to those of you who take the time to share your experiences and qualifications here on this board. It makes it much easier to have confidence in my purchases when I’m getting first-hand reviews from people who know what they’re talking about.

J

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What mount should one use with the Aimpoint Micro if they want an absolute co-witness on an AR-15? I tried the lower 1/3 co-witness thing with my EOTech and didn’t care for it. For me, the lower the cheek weld (and the less the sight line/bore offset), the better.

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https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=14145&page=5

S/F,
Jeff

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ADM that is the route I went.
I wanted a lower mount because of my low cheek weld. I called LT and asked about the HK mount and about a absolute height LT mount that may come out in the future. The guy on the phone told me I “need” their tall mount even after I told him that I’d have to shoot with my cheek off the stock for that. I tried that with a EO and a riser. I would loose the reticule even with the huge reticule and window.

Well after being frustrated by being told at what I “needed”, I ordered a ADM mount. I like it very much and have bought another ADM mount since.

From what I’ve seen, if you buy a standard mount and decide you want a higher one in the future you just need to buy the “adapter” for 20 or 30 bucks.