I know the manual of arms differ for each, yes. They each have merit and each have detriment, regarding controls and features. What I am trying to decide is which one to buy based on which is least likely to shit the bed running it all day long as often as I find time with slugs and buck and whatever. Which one is the best made and most “glocklike” with regard to boring reliability and durability.
I think between the 870P and 590A1 you can choose based on which safety location you prefer. Either choice is good. I have no idea about the Benelli but will get to see a friends run in a shotgun class in December.
I feel like enough Magpul/etc. “shotgun classes” have been around long enough for a trend to emerge.
I voted 870, but I’d take it or the 590 above the SuperNova. Nothing wrong with the SuperNova, but a 3.5" chamber is unnecessary for a fighting shotgun, and the aftermarket is limited.
Between the 870 and 590, comes down to controls. I prefer the 870 by miles, but I’m used to it. So go handle them and decide. Also, if you decide on the Police model, look at AI&P Tactical. JD does great Express upgrade packages that brings them to spec with the Police, and actually uses some better parts than the Police (Wilson Combat extension, polymer trigger guard, etc).
I voted the 870P. To be hounest ive never shot a 590 although I would love to try one out some day. I’m just a hard core Remington guy when it comes to shotguns.
Personally I have owned all three. Not a fan of the 870… the 590A1. Is reliable and a great gun. The Nova you can buy barrels for and use it to hunt If you want to. and one cool feature of the Nova is the button on the for end allows for a “select slug”. Meaning in a tactical situation to load a slug in a pump gun without having to eject a shell or loose space in the tube by loading a slug in the tube. You just hold it down and port load away.
I am a fan of the Nova/Supernova features
Another option is the Winchester 1200/1300 series, I personally like them quite a bit
SuperNova…the recent production 870 models are a bit lacking in quality.
I’m getting ready to revamp my 870. It currently has a pistol grip stock, so the safety location is actually usable. I’m looking to go to a magpul stock and find myself wanting to go to a 590. Both the safety and the side release are in way better locations. It also doesn’t hurt that the Mossberg has dual extractors
The dual extractors are superior to the 870 in my experience
ive had four mossbergs in the past. 500persuader, 500tactical, 590A1, 930SPX Blackwater. they all were great shotties but im not too crazy for them anymore. i want a 870 police 5shot for HD and a benelli m4 for competition.
I recently purchased the 870P MAX, after adding up what it would cost for me to buy a butt stock/pistol grip, the Surefire light forend, and the extended mag tube, etc. I just thought it was a a good deal.
590A1 hands down. Remington QC has been in the toilet lately.
While this is true, I have not heard any QC issues with police models, and when comparing to a 590a1, a police model is the only thing close to an apples to apples comparison
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to mortar the 870’s at work to get them to extract a fired shell. My 590 with dual extractors gets even low-brass shells out like it did when I bought it in 1993. I also prefer the safety location of the Mossy and the elevator design not being in the way/pinching my thumb when the gun is in battery.
Are they new or old 870’s?
And are you pushing or pulling on the forend during firing?
Another 590 vote, my 870 fails to load frequently, the lifter seems to block shells loading from mag tube, brass catches on the lifter and I have to move lifter and push shell back into mag tube. Plus the finish is starting to show rust spots from storage. Doesn’t happen to any other firearm finish I own.
rumor is remington got bought by a company that produces quantity over quality…
This is correct, Rhino is just doing his Rhino thing of posting crap.
Lol good to know