Bought my son a plain jane Remington 870 Express. Every 3rd or 4th round of Remington and Winchester field loads are failing to extract.
Did a google and found out its a fairly common problem. Now I have to send it to Remington but they are telling me I will have to pay shipping. I find this surprising, the gun has less that a box or two of shells.
I am disappointed by Remington for the problem and expecting me to pay for the shipping of a new shotgun.
I have an older 1100 and an 870, love their shotguns, now not so sure.
This is a brand new gun? What kind of ammo?
You pay to ship it to them, they pay to ship it back. Standard for most firearms companies.
Save the shipping costs and take it to a local gunsmith. I sent my 870P back to “Remington” (an authorized repair place they told me to send it to) and it came back to me not a bit better than it left.
Also, if you insist on sending it to Remington, call back and talk to someone else: they emailed me a pre-paid shipping label, I didn’t have to pay to send it in (but it was a waste of my time to do so).
This problem has been written about many times. Do enough google searches and the solution is out there. I don’t know if I can link stories from other sites but there’s a long thread on this at snipershide that addresses the fix and it’s not difficult.
The issue with extraction of inexpensive low base field and target loads, especially the Winchester bulk stuff from places like WalMart is well known.
Check out the link below for the recommended fix by Aippi:
http://www.aiptactical.com/Page_2.html
He’s one of the go to guys for the 870 out there.
I’ve had the same experience with two different expresses, and chamber polishing solved the problem.
Glad you posted this OP. I’ve had extraction issues with WWB target loads but never looked into it because it just doesn’t get much use. My 870 has had less than 50rds through it.
It seems to be a very common problem, I am sure I could fix it myself but since its a new gun I don’t wont to do anything that would void the warranty.
My son has only shot field loads (Remington and Winchester) in it but its such a common problem even with better shells according to my google searches.
Some of the searches claim almost every 870 Express and some Wingmasters has this problem along with a host of other problems.
I really hate to hear this because I really like Remington, but this is my only experience with a recently made product from Remington.
Very sad to see another historic company that so many of us grew up with drop their quality. It seems to be such a pattern with a lot of gun manufacture’s in the last few years.
Dude, you’re making way too big a deal out of this.
I don’t feel like I am making a big deal.
I hate to see what used to be quality companies especially American companys lower their quality.
Just seems to be a phase so many are going through, hope it will reverse itself.
I expect a certain amount of lemons to come out, not large numbers, and Remington unfortunately is not the only gun company who has slipped.
Got some input in the thread on some of my options, that was the point of the topic for me and how I felt about it.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
Economy:
Higher End:
They Aren’t My Guns But I Need to Clean Their Chambers 3 Part Kit:
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Electric Drill
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Cleaning Rod End Section
Seriously, you can polish the chamber yourself using the steel wool method or the stainless steel tornado brush on the drill - be careful not to overdo it with the tornado brush.
Then you really need at least the first handled bore brush listed first.
I have a fleet of range shotguns (870’s and 590A1’s) that have problems with the valu-pak rounds from Wally World unless the chambers are clean.
I wouldn’t go through the hassle of sending it back.
You’ve got what, 50 rounds through this?
You don’t even know that it is the gun, it could have just as easily been the ammo.
Even still, so what? Most people understand that new guns will have teething issues.
The overwhelming majority of people have zero problems with their remmys. It is hardly “a very common problem.” Don’t let the internet noise fool you.
Send it back to the factory or get a smith to look at it.
In the meantime, until you can identify the cause, you’re making way too much out of this.
My 1996 870 magnum ejects slugs and buckshot with issue.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the helpful responses. I guess I have been really lucky in all of the guns I have owned over the years this is my first issue I have had.
This forum is my main go to for advice, seems like the most knowledgeable forum members that I have found for sure.
My son is away at college and will be bringing it in tomorrow. I will see if he wants to send it in or me and him break out some tools and give it a try ourselves.
Thanks for tips and links everyone.
Gutshot John, I don’t know why you are being so defensive about this. Yes it does seem to be a common problem, try doing a search.
I do think that Remington will fix the problem or I will. Ashamed that they have not taking care of the problem in the factory.
Its hard to read tone in the typed word but you seem to be getting annoyed for me asking for some opinions on a forum that I trust.
I thought good advice and good communication was why we were all on here.
If I have misunderstood your tone, then my mistake, no hard feelings.
Define “common”.
Companies cannot craft a successful business model that permits them to bring in every gun that a customer cannot get to work, free of charge.
Doesn’t make it painless, but hopefully it does make it rational.
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Whatever dude.
Common for me is page after page of failures to extract on google and gun forum searches and personally talking to people who know shotguns way more than I do.
And if paying shipping is common for the customer to pay on a new gun than so be it, I have never had to personally send a gun back so I was not sure of the practice. That’s why I asked.
I have always been a fan on Remington and use older models on a regular basis. They have always been my favorite and probably will remain so.
As stated before I expect anything man made to have issues, but this does seem to be a common problem from what I have gathered with newer Remingtons.
I also believe that cheaper shotgun shells attribute to this problem, but I have an older 870 and an even older 1100 that will feed and extract very reliable.
As stated was looking for reliable advise and I have received it, once again I thank everyone.
I bought a couple of 870 Express guns (#25077) last year and found that both would exhibit sticky extraction and even an occasional failure to extract with loads with steel heads, even after putting over 500 rds through each gun. Loads with brass heads never caused a problem in these guns. Took them to my friendly neighborhood smith who polished both chambers. This solved the problem. Remington seems to be under a lot of pressure to keep the price down on the 870 Express. To do this I expect them to have to cut a few steps.
Both of my newer 870s have issues. Ocasionally I have to beat the stock on the ground holding the slide, to get it to eject the spent casing. Have tried cheap shells, and more expensive brands and it doesn’t make a difference. Both guns have over 5000 rounds through them. One has been back to remington and still has issues.
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Edit: Disregard, my solution was already supplied by CA_SHOOTER. For sure his solution worked for me!