Very true sir, very true.
I’ll bet the lawyers at Safariland love that video. I’ll have to ring up one of our tactical guys and ask what he is using to carry his Glock 22.
“Hopefully, speaking to the child and the child’s parents to find out how they were able to get access to the officer’s gun, what the child’s intent may have been—we don’t know if it was accidental or unintentional.”
Really? You have to question whether or not a 6-8 year old child had intentionally fired that weapon? Stay classy Lodi PD.
I doubt that they have seen it yet considering that I just filmed it within the hour. 
Look at the bright side. One person received a minor injury and his agency is a little embarrassed right now.
If the officer had reacted with a weapon retention technique and injured the child, the media would be having a field day.
Hey, in a perfect world one of the other officers should have seen the kid go for the gun and taken him down before he was able to get his little booger hook in there. 
Embarrassing situation, to be sure, but thankfully no one was seriously injured or killed and it will result in a lot of folks taking a very close look at their equipment and procedures to minimize the likelihood of a repeat episode.
Your post has a lot of merit, it would have eliminated the discharge in this particular incident.
The video of the safari land holster is definitely a AD waiting to happen. I’m glad I do not own one.
Competition gun for duty use? I Know there was a thread where this was beaten to death, but it was more about the hole in the slide.
But the Glock 35 does have the “-” 3.5lb connector. This would not have happened with a de-cocked DA/SA pistol, or a SA pistol on safe.
Someone in the article’s comment section mentioned that they will probably put out an APB on a 4’6" white male, weighing approx 85 lbs, last seen carrying a backpack and Superman lunchbox, headed Westbound on Sesame St. in a yellow truck…
The LE 34/35’s don’t have the “-” connector in them
As someone who has given countless demonstrations to groups your wrong. Now I do agree you should have some empty weapons for the demo but my personal weapons stay loaded. Also you generally don’t have the man power to put a security detail on an officer giving a presentation. Your talking without any experience on the subject.
pat
It would not have happened had the officer been more aware of what was going on around him. Also I prefer a 3.5 pound trigger for duty use. Having a heavier trigger does not make the gun safer only more difficult to fire. Keep your finger and other peoples fingers off the trigger of your weapon.
Pat
I like to keep things simple. The concept of a retention holster is to prevent an officer from being shot with his/her own service pistol. It would appear the equipment this officer was issued is not suitable for the task.
If I described how I use to make my service pistol safer when responding to bar fights, it would give a few LEO a heart attack.
Are we sure he wasn’t the only one professional enough at the event to carry that Glock .40? 
ETA: I mean, they don’t know who did it…to me it sounds like he finger banged himself. I realize that there are holsters that allow this to happen, I just find it far more likely that he did it to himself facilitated by such a holster.
Think about it. A three foot six child would have to reach up to head level, turn his hand down almost vertical as shown in NCPatrolAR’s video, know where the trigger was, then manage to get his finger fully on the trigger to disengage the safety and press up on the trigger, all with his hand at a weird angle in relation to wear his forearm would have been… It just strikes me as a stretch is all I’m saying.
You don’t need a whole department for a detail. It only takes 1 or 2 officers to lead the demo and the rest on standby for assistance/guidance and so forth. These demos commonly have a handful of officers. I have yet to see any law enforcement community activism ever have less than 3 or 4 officers involved. The circumstances dictate the conditions. Are you so scared to have 1 officer not armed when surrounded by youth and a few other officers who are armed? I don’t care what your policy and procedures are, it is not a hard concept to grasp. It IS NOT an everyday on the beat patrolling, SWAT team breaching a house, undercover officer working a case, gang unit raiding a gang hideout, or any other operation to carry unloaded; not at all what I am getting at.
Stop with the questioning of experience/flashing of e-penises. There’s absolutely no reason people should be going after each other in this thread.
Our community coordinators regularly do events solo or with one other officer.
:lol:
He was last seen in the company of a green frog and big yellow bird.
WOW
I dont own any safariland stuff but have to say that seems like a really bad design ? for that kinda holster ?
speed setup I can see but more tactical style I think I would not want that happening ! even a lot of camping and stuff could see easy enough stick or something getting in there
I dont fight with people over my gun but as a LEO carrying daily ? I might be concerned with that setup again I dont know cause I am not LEO
thanks for the link to that
Wasn’t too long ago I remember several vocal opponents of open carry because “ordinary civilians” don’t have the training and mindset to protect their weapon.
And I guess while I’m at it, this wouldn’t have happened with a SERPA.
But seriously, this isn’t a matter of not having a round in the chamber if their are children with 21 feet. This is a matter of “don’t touch my ****ing gun at all” and having that mindset as a constant regardless of if they are only kids.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
I assume everyone, even a 6-8 year old kid, who moves toward my weapon is a threat. Either because he intends to take my weapon and shoot me or simply stick his booger infested finger onto my gun or gear and possible discharge the weapon because he’s somebodies stupid little moron and will end up shooting myself and / or another kid in the process.
So the rule is…
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
This applies to relatives, wives, gfs, your kids, etc. Everyone.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
I can’t count the number of hands I’ve slapped away because somebody didn’t understand this rule or why it exists.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
DON’T TOUCH MY GUN.
That is the rule, but it is MY JOB to enforce the rule.