Well, I’m branching out from the traditional calibers.
Since I already own two other rifles in .308, letting the SPS in .308 w/Hooper Ordnance BM and the 300wm PSS go.
I have a Krieger in 6.5 blank on the way along with a donor SPS SS and HS M24 stock. Will have it finished at 28" in 6.5 Creedmoor.
I decided to run the standard stock for now and maybe later either do a DBM or pick up either the AICS or AX chassis. Will have it bead blasted for a matte finish and if desired, Cerakote later on as well.
Since I’m not delivering a payload, no need to run the 300wm for the ballistics.
First choice. For paper 300wm like ballistics and for those of us that don’t want another hobby of reloading, commercially available match-grade ammo for about $1 a round. If Remington hadn’t treated the .260Rem like a red headed step child, maybe that would be the way to go.
I think a lot of people are a bit surprised when you see the data on the “other” calibers. For me, I saw nothing but advantages going to the 6.5C.
When comparing it to a .308, there’s a huge difference, although I like the .308 as well. If anyone is looking, have a nice 300wm PSS for you! sub moa shooter.
Might be easier to just dump the AICS on it early and have it set up for DBM out of the box, but I do agree with the 260/6.5C being the sweet spot for short action M700’s, and the 6.5CM being the superiour choice if factory ammunition is desired at all.
I’d love to hear the reasoning behind this. I could see an argument based on the fact that Hornady hasn’t always kept up with demand for brass/loaded ammo, but other than that I’m having a hard time figuring why it would be anyone’s last choice.
Well for starters, most rifle companies have stoped chambering there guns for it (their not selling), like Ruger for instance, thats not a good sign for a new round. The 260 rem and the 6.5x47 lapua both offer better Brass (lapua and nosler) plus they have a bigger following. Who makes 6.5 creedmoor ammo besided Hornady?
I’m personal not a fan of any of Hornadys new rounds they dont offer anything over the rounds they were intended to compete with. I dont know about the brass and loaded ammo issue. Granted I dont see Hornady droping it from their line, but I would like to see a few more companies onboard before I picked it over the affore mentioned chamberings.
This just my opnion dont let it upset you, I wanted to know from the OP why he choose this round over the others. Beacuase in my mind it didnt seam right. HE sees something I dont and I am interested in what it is?
It is not as though factory rifles in 6.5X47 or .260 are selling like hot cakes either, particularly in the magnum crazed hunting market.
True the Creedmoor does not offer some dramatic performance increase over the .260 and really fills the same niche. Now that good .260 brass is available, one if the Creedmoor’s advantage is minimized. That being said, the Creedmoor is a good cartridge and one with very good factory ammo readily available something the .260 really lacks. Plus you can get Superformance ammo which knock the Creedmoor into 6.5-284 territory (albiet not with match bullets yet). And I can say this, Hornady 140 gr AMAX Creedmoor factory load is a hammer in my Kodiak Precision 6.5 Creedmoor.
Whichever one you pick pretty much weds you to somebody. Pick the Creedmoor, you hook up with Hornady ($46 for 50 pieces of brass or $24-5 for a box of 20 loaded with 140 AMAX). Pick the .260, make nice with Nolser ($50 for 50) and/or Lapua ($94 for 100).
I have several dogs in this fight as I own 2 Creedmoors and 2 .260s! They all shoot great.
There is alot of 260 rem ammo out there Black hills, cor bon, remington, HSM, Federal, Nosler. Midway alone list 22 diffrent loads in 260 rem and they dont even carry every brand.
Superperformance has been poping alot of primers on bolt guns. I cant imagin what it would do in a gas stysem.
I would have to say I dont think the creedmoor can touch the speeds the 6.5x284 is pushing with 140g bullets.
SP in 308 popped primers in my gas gun and one of the primers lodged itself under the FCG rendering the gun useless until I cleaned it out. I talked with Jason Hornady about it as well as the crappy accuracy with their 5.56 SP 75 BTHP. Not gonna get into in this thread but the correspondence left a lot of be desired out of that company.
My issue with 260 is match ammunition is expensive when I can get 308 ammo that shoots low MOA to sub MOA for 15-20 a box. Good 260 rem ammo, last I checked was closer to 30-35 a box. But the more people that produce and shoot it the lower the cost will be.
Last time I spoke with Gean at LMT he was having the same issue with the ammo in the MWS. I would say it sould never ever be used in a gas gun. I did not factor in cost, its generly not a concirn of mine.
The 6.5 Creedmore wasn’t designed as a hunting round. Hornady doesn’t need to compete with everyone else for sales when they pretty much own the market for this caliber. The fact that even Remington’s own brand of brass sucked big time meant even if you had a 260 rifle, you were probably forced to buy someone’s factory load at $35 a box. Midway doesn’t have a 260 round that’s anywhere close to the $1 per round that the 6.5 C goes for, except for one brand on sale.
I’m guessing that there are probably more 260 guns out there based on raw sales volume, but 260 doesn’t do anything any better than any other round of similar weight and velocity. The medium game market is saturated by more calibers than I can count. I just don’t see a large jump in demand for the 260 even if the quality and price of the ammo both improve for the better.
While Remington’s .260 brass isn’t great, it’s more than good enough for hunting or even “tactical” style matches. The overwhelming majority of .260 brass that I’m seeing used in matches is Remington. Personally, I had been using the expensive Nosler Custom brass, but just this past weekend I picked up some Remington brass and worked up a load and find that it shoots fine. I wouldn’t show up at a benchrest match with a randomly selected handful of Remington brass, but if you toss out a few cases out of a bag you’ll have perfectly suitable brass.
As for the popularity of the .260, there was a recent poll on SH asking people what their match cartridge choice was. Not surprisingly .308 was in the lead, but .260 was very close behind. Now, I understand that SH isn’t necessarily a representation of the shooting community at large, but it is a good place to take the pulse of people who are more involved in shooting sports.
Mention 6.5 Creedmore in a caliber question and it’s like saying Browning High Power in a post about pistols. The haters just seem to find you. I don’t think anyone makes a factory gun chambered in 6mm BR, but that hasen’t stopped the 6mm from being popular in BR shoots. The 6.5 C looses out to the 260 R when you start to go past 600yards, but that’s more of an excersise in ballistics than in practical accuracy.
The best shooters are going to win matches no matter what caliber they use, that’s why they’re the best. The fact that the 6.5 C is popular among top target shooters should tell you something about it’s performance.
I used Rem brass in my 260 rems, it shot fine but I had loose primer pockets on the first loading. Your right on the money with the Nosler I use it in my 300 win mag, god its great stuff.
