What do you guys think. http://www.bhamweekly.com/2009/05/20/five-bpd-cops-fired-after-brutal-video-surfaces/
They messed up.
The jackass who nearly KILLED that officer with the spike strips deserves a hell of a lot worse than what he got, IMO.
There’s a good chance that he was trying to avoid the spike strip more than trying to hit the cop. I would probably have wanted to inflict some pain to, but I would think that flipping the van and ejecting the guy would be enough.
Looking at the video it appears to me that the driver of the white van goes around the dark import car and then makes a bee line right for the officer before the spike strip is even out…this despite the fact that there appeared to be open road directly in front of him.
Looking at the video john wayne is right the road is open in front of him. I do belive he tried to run the cop over.
Looking at the video Its hard to tell but I can only make out 3 cops beating him.
The BG is a career criminal and you’re willing to go with the theory that he was only trying to avoid the spike strip and NOT attempting to hit the officer…have you ever been to prison or are you a lawyer?? That might explain your sympathetic reasoning. The BG had plenty of options besides driving directly at the officer with the spike strips.
In the end they should not have approached in that manner and instead completed the arrest in a controlled professional mannner. I’ve seen plenty of active resistors get arrested and taken into custody with the use of mildly violent techniques. In twenty years I’ve never seen a totally unconcious person get beat down. He might have it coming but it’s not worth losing your job or getting charged and the worst part is MF’er did’nt even feel any of it.
By law, what the officers did was wrong but these car chases need end NOW!
Enough of the spike strips and PIT maneuvers, I would like to see them use lethal force immediately to stop a vehicle. The moment the criminal behind the wheel decides to run, disobeying all laws, and endangering my family, it’s time for deadly force.
Just create a good old fashioned road block setup and if the suspect does not stop then end the threat.
I presume that you suggested the poster was a lawyer in the context of his potentially playing devil’s advocate. If the suggestion is that lawyers are naturally sympathetic to crooks, you are on the road to insulting more than a few members of this board, myself included.
I have looked at the video 4 times in full screen I can only make out 3 officers swinging on him. The officer wearing the tan shirt that pushed another officer out of the way just so that he can swing on the perps head that guy messed up BIG TIME! Funny thing is I am almost 99% sure thats a hoover uniform.The cop that he tried to run down was also a hoover cop.
The beating is 100% justified in my opinion.
But we live in a fuckhead nation.
the problem is not whether or not the cops “should” or “shouldn’t” have hit the fucker… the problem is that EVERYTHING is on camera these days.
I agree but he was knocked out and he didn’t feel damn thing If he was still moving around crawling or standing I would total beat him down. The thing is I can only see 3 officers swinging on him why did they fire 5 and of the 3 one of them stoped when another officer grabbed his jacket to pull him back. The sad thing is At least 2 of the officers maybe a 3rd one got fired over what??
And some some of the fuckheads commit crimes while on camera.
The beating is 100% justified in my opinion.
I would agree it was understandable…but not justified.
They should be fired(any involved in striking him).
Whether or not he deserved it is irrelevant.If they arent able to control themselves better than that under stress.They have no business being law enforcement IMO.
Others manage to do similar takedowns all of the time without beating an unconscious"suspect".It served no purpose other than a little satisfaction at the total cost of professionalism.They did more damage to their fellow officers arround the nation(not to mention their own department) than they did to the perp.
I am sick of bad guys running in cars hurting others putting others lives in danger and worse etc…
I say for every car that is within 100 yards they get a attempted murder charge on each passenger !!
OR
they pull them out on the dash cam and put a round in the head !!! and show it on TV that night for all to see and say when you run this is what happens to you !!!
sadly though the cops should not have beat him as this will just give the crooks and lefties more ammo to use against them
I say I wish they could 
as said not justifiable but I am sure understandable like Jerm said above
I think I would have said whhhoooops I could not break in time that is why I accidentally ran him over
I am sick of people like this guy getting away
in my eyes it for sure looked like he wanted to hit the other cop !!!
[QUOTE=Jerm;374449]I would agree it was understandable…but not justified.
They should be fired(any involved in striking him).
I don’t agree totally with that. I can only see 3 officers swinging on him. If i am in a chase and the adrenalin is pumping and you cant see every thing that is happening you run up to a suspect with 2 or 3 cops swinging on him and you take 1 MAYBE 2 swings and you notice the subject is not resisting and you stop and step back why should you be FIRED.
Am I messing something I only see 3 cops swinging on him and 1 of the 3 stops when his jacket is pulled.
+1
Too bad the car didn’t end up on the POS’s head.
A PIT can be considered lethal force. Departmental policies vary, but in mostmost an officer has to get clearance to use it from his chain of command. During the chase I would imagine it’s a lot easier to try and stop the suspect vehicle with the
cruiser than to try and engage with a handgun. Shooting out tires does happen, but trying to control a vehicle at high speed AND effectively engage a bad guy with a firearm is a pretty tall order.
Participating in the beating is one thing. If they attempted to cover up the beating by giving false statements about the incident during the investigation, that would be cause for termination as well. I don’t know if that was the case or not, but covering a buddy’s butt can land you in as much hot water as participating in the beatdown.
While I don’t really have much sympathy for the sorts of people who try to run down cops, I don’t think summary executions on the side of the road is an acceptable solution to that problem.