I was really looking at one of those Model Sevens to shoot subsonic suppressed, in the interest of not making my tinnitus any worse. I’m glad I found this before I sprung for it, though. Looks like Remington’s QC is just as good as it has been for the last three guns I bought.
http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=137
Just a public service announcement for anyone considering a similar thing.
Your link goes to a thread list, not a thread.
Just because you’ve had bad luck with remington, doesn’t make that the norm.
You’ve had several remingtons, and now apparently FN’s that won’t shoot. That many rifles, through one guy’s hands that don’t work right? Either you are doing something to them to make them not shoot, or you have the worst luck in history. I’m not discounting either possibility.
A factory rifle is a factory rifle. Don’t want to deal with problems that exist in ALL factory rifles regardless of pedigree? Buy a Surgeon or get a custom build on one of their actions. Spend your money and be happy.
I’ve assembled and tested a couple dozen remington 700’s over the last couple years. NONE exhibited any problems and were sub-moa shooters.
Just a public service announcement.
I recall a couple post with some 7’s and possible feed issues. I think they were mag issues. If I remember, some were converted .223’s(barrel change) One may have been stock
I to have had some 700’s w/o issues.
Agree, you have some seriously bad luck,my advice is to try one STOCK or go custom or high end STOCK
The feed would really be an irritant, but I was more thinking about accuracy with 220gr subsonics. It doesn’t seem to be there, plus with it not being free-floated, I don’t know. I would think 1 MOA would be a reasonable expectation for a gun that would never be fired past 200 or so. What do you think would be realistic?
I don’t know… how good of a shooter are you?
It doesn’t much matter, because until a rifle is proven accurate, no claims can be made either way. Just because tom, dick, and harry got accurate ones, doesn’t mean you will. Just because nick, nancy, and bobby got inaccurate ones, doesn’t mean you will.
I can hold 1moa at 100yds with 308 subs using trailboss and 175SMK’s. 2moa at 300yds. Every properly loaded, properly built, properly operated 300BLK or whisper I’ve been around could do better than that.
Besides, you still haven’t been able to definitively say that you aren’t causing the accuracy problem you’ve seen with all the guns you’ve posted about recently that developed accuracy problems. I’d be answering that question before I went out and spent more money on rifles.
If I go out tomorrow and shoot a half-MOA 5-shot group at 200 yards and post it here, would that resolve that question? If I have to physically do that and take a picture of it I’ll do it, but the question is will that resolve it in your mind? Because if it’s just going to be “well, but” then I’m not going to bother with getting a good camera out and doing it.
If I wanted to say you were a shitty shot, and that was your problem… I wouldn’t beat around the bush. I’d say it.
I’m simply saying that you’ve gone through 3? 4? rifles that have various degrees of accuracy problems either at the onset, or after you’ve had them a bit. Don’t you think that is a question needs answered before you get more rifles?
Want to know how accurate a rifle is? Shoot it.
Asking us how accurate it should be is an exercise in futility. However, if you get another rifle, and it is mysteriously plagued by the same problems as all the previous ones you’ve told us about, I might start to question your methods seriously.
Postscript - I went to the shop with the intent of taking that Model Seven home today (I shot a friend’s .300 Whisper and .500 Whisper this morning and really wanted to get one of my own) but fortunately I had read the threads in the forum I posted above and tested the gun to see if it would cycle factory Remington loads.
It would not cycle reliably. It displayed the exact problem described in those threads, with two different factory Blackout loads and my friend’s .300 Whisper loads.
Now see, I just saved myself $800 and yet another huge pain in the ass. Perhaps someone else might find that information useful as well.
I’m quite sure you are right.
Why one would consider a model 7 over a 700 is beyond my understanding. Especially now that you can get a 700sps chambered in 300blk.
Take a 700SA, get a 300blk barrel spun on, run your choice of bottom metal with AI 223 magazines and you’d be hard pressed to desire anything else.
I wasn’t looking for a full-blown precision rifle since my only use for it would be subsonic suppressed shooting. If the Model Seven wasn’t such a piece of shit it would fit the bill nicely.
All that being said I’m thinking I might just build an upper to play with the round. This was more of a sporting endeavor - I was shooting subsonic .50 Spotter-Tracers from a .500 Whisper earlier and it was VERY entertaining, particularly at dusk.