What I’ve found so far is that most Russian made rounds are crap. Brown Bear and Silver Bear seem to be the cheapest while still having some good reviews. PMC Bronze .223 are the only rounds I’ve ever fired. They seem to be a good middle ground.
What are people using these days for target ammo? What for a home defense round?
There are really nice stickies in teh terminal ballistics forum for you to read.
On the subject of practice ammo: use the search button. Common trends: Wolf for most everyone, cheapest brass case stuff for those who believe in myths about steel cases being dangerous.
Thanks for the Terminal Ballistics pointer. I did not see that section of forum previously.
I did indeed use the search function for practice ammo and I see people complain more about Wolf than endorsing it. In addition, most threads were 3 years+ old.
I appreciate the input though, thank you.
Keep in mind for every single person bitching incessantly about a product on the internet, another nine are keeping their mouths shut out of apathy and enjoying the product.
I had a couple thousands rounds of wolf run flawlessly in my blaster, im talking functionality, not sub MOA or anything. I Watched it lock up others during the same strings of fire. Both were quality rifle brands. I can honestly say the only reason I stopped running wolf was the terrible packaging and it’s no fun to jam mags with. This is coming from loading 30 mags in a single sitting. If you aren’t burning through 500-1000 rounds a day then it isn’t that big of a deal. Before you invest in a thousand, run a couple hundred to make sure your rifle likes to eat it. I switched to IMI. It’s great. 1200 rounds for $318 plus shipping. Comes in a nice box with boxes of 30 rounds with no bs packaging so it’s easy to sit and jam mags the night before range day.
Yeah… I’ve sat there and overheard people rationalize away all kinds of malfs. Not lubed, not broken in yet, etc.
For practice ammo, there’s only one commonly available round I’d spend money on right now… Federal AE223.
I use Gold dot 64 grain .223 for home defense ammo.
Why would that be the only round you’d buy for practice ammo?
I don’t like anything else out there that’s commonly available and priced at practica ammo levels.
IMI from wideners is nice too.
Hey Mark, two questions if you don’t mind. Where are you finding the 64 gr Gold Dots? All I can locate is the 5.56 55gr stuff. Second question, how do you like the 5.56 55 gr. vs the .223 64 grain Gold Dots?
Thanks,
I bought my gold dots a while back. I haven’t shopped for them in a long time… and I’ve never tried any of the “556” stuff.
OK, thanks Mark.
We shoot a lot of PMC bronze at work. It has functioned well in a lot of rough looking rifles. I don’t know the cost.
For practice / training ammo I use reloads whenever I am footing the bill.
A couple other agencies I shoot with use the above mentioned AE223. For practice cost is a much larger concern that terminal performance so the cheapest round the functions fairly reliably is the “best”.
Just bought 2400 rounds of IMI M193 for 26.5 cents per round. Hard to beat for quality ammo.
I agree, great price, but looks like he is all out. I should have bought it when I saw it the first time.
That is a great deal. Is that from Widener’s?
I fudged around forever on that ammo. :mad:
I thought Wideners had a bunch since they dropped the price to $318. I was hoping to rotate some of my doo doo XM193 stash out and replace it with IMI.
Out of Stock.
The M855 is still there… The price isn’t as sweet, but it’s there.
It is but he jacked up the price. Still not bad but I would only use it for training ammo so I will probably look elsewhere.
I’m waiting on a checkaroonie… If it was big enough, I was going to finally snag some of that nice M193. 