Hey guys, I was wondering if there was a manufacturer chart for 1911s like there is for ARs? I am thinking about picking up a Springfield Armory Lightweight Operator and was wondering how it stacks up against other 1911s. It would be my first 1911 so any help would be much appreciated!
10-8 Forums have a lot of 1911 threads.
Here’s Hilton Yam’s take on the 1911:
http://www.10-8performance.com/id8.html
Good luck.
M_P
Thank you very much!
Good choice on a 1911
I like the idea of the 1911 chart. Imagine the hell that would start.
The weeping and gnashing of teeth would be epic. There’s already so much stupidity in the 1911 world to make you want to eat your gun just to make the pain stop…
…like people all over the place bitching their little lips off because LAV said that if you want something smaller than a 5" .45 1911 then buy another gun on Tactical Arms…I mean, really…what the hell does HE know about 1911’s? I’ve put 200 rounds through my 3" Kimber in the last 5 years and it works great!..
…a “chart” on the 1911 would be practically impossible since there’s no real TDP out there for the 1911, but if we could muster one we’d be up to our elbows in inflamed manginas and hurt feelings.
:D:D … HA!! …:D:D
.I mean, really…what the hell does HE know about 1911’s? I’ve put 200 rounds through my 3" Kimber in the last 5 years and it works great!..
yeah, 200 FLAWLESS rounds
“I held at one at the gun store today and I must say I was impressed.”
M_P
No, there is no “chart” for 1911s. The 1911 forums are great places to read and gather information.
I would not recommend an alloy framed, 4" gun as your first 1911, for reliability and shootability reasons.
I would rate Springfield 1911s as good, mid-tier guns with good customer service from SA.
You owe it to yourself to do some serious research as to what you want and NEED in this gun, so you don’t waste alot of your money. For instance, are you really going to mount a lamp on a 1911, let alone any handgun? Research is free, guns are not.
Most here will simply recommend GLOCK or M&P, and with good reason. For 1911 information, again, check out forums like www.1911forum.com and http://forum.m1911.org/
Good luck!
Thanks for all of your help guys!! Much appreciated! 
touché! that’s is indeed the ultimate chump understudy verbal stamp of approval
I would just be happy if there were enough companies that made Mil-Spec 1911s to justify a chart.
When I say “Mil-Spec” I’m talking about throwing five fully disassembled pistols into a pillow case, and being able to put together five perfectly functioning pistols by drawing random parts.
That isn’t a serious post, is it?
I’m not aware of any manufacture charts for 1911s. I would just talk to different smiths on the forums, and come to your own conclusion.
Revel in the embarassment:
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/defensive-carry-guns/84573-tactical-arms-1911-a.html
Get over the romance!!
I’m reveling…and feel dumber after reading it.
What the hell are people thinking?! That these guys (Vickers etc.) don’t have a clue what they’re talking about?
When I say “Mil-Spec” I’m talking about throwing five fully disassembled pistols into a pillow case, and being able to put together five perfectly functioning pistols by drawing random parts.
There are only two ways to acheive that level of interchangeability (especially in a 1911), one would be an absolutely insane quality control that’d run the cost of each pistol up to about $3k apiece (and even then you wouldn’t have accuracy and reliability would be hit-or-miss), or to build em like they did in the old days: with tolerances so loose you could wake the dead from rattling 'em.
Parts interchangeability is all well and good, and can be a point of significant value to a large military or police instutition maintaining a tremendous number of guns but to us, the average buyers, we actually get a better 1911 with our parts fit to the specific gun.
Mil-spec ain’t no great shakes in my book…
Bac over on Glock Talk is supposed to be doing a write up for entry level 1911s. I don’t think he has it posted yet and while he doesn’t claim to be an expert on the 1911, he personally owns almost 1 of every brand.
Might want to check in there now and again to see if it has been posted yet.
That is what I want: build the gun to a spec, like they did in the old days. One of the major complaints about the 1911 is that it takes a fairly skilled individual/a great deal of time to replace the majority of the parts.
I also do not know if I agree with your other statement. I think this may be an exaggeration from people who have only seen abused, 60 year old surplus weapons. Comparing a DCM “rack grade” M1 to new as issued M1 is not a fair comparison. Even then, “waking the dead” is quite an exaggeration for the fit of a particular Rem Rand that I have had the chance to fire on occassion.
A NIB original 1911A1 is not something that many of us have had a chance to inspect. However, I have handled like-new Government Models that were from around the same era and there was no “rattle” to speak of. Colt’s WWII reissue was supposedly held to the original blueprints, and the examples I have seen were not rattle traps either.