12.8" group at 1 mile

Is this the cartridge?

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/04/heavy-artillery-russo-reveals-the-338-408-big-baer/

Amazing shooting!

I’d post the .gif of Wayne’s World “we’re not worthy” if I knew how. :slight_smile:

Can you put up a couple photos of that rifle? Would be cool to see it.

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That’s it.

Wow, that’s a sweet rifle.

Tom personally took a day out of his time to teach me the inner workings of long range shooting. By the end of the day, my Remington 700 was making shots out to 1200yds around 1.5MOA.

The rifle has been worked on by Tom since then, and is now over at GAP for a rebarrel to 6.5 Creedmoor.

I’m extremely curious where the self appointed experts who believe “if it isn’t a 10 shot group it isn’t a group worth mentioning on this forum” people are that usually post here criticizing and dismissing people who shoot 3 or 5 shot groups? Do they suddenly have nothing to say? I’ll be subscribing to see exactly who is a hypocrite and who shuts the fuck up.

Myself, I am impressed. That is some good shooting no matter what anyone says.

Nice shooting Joel! Nice rifle! I wouldn’t know where to begin.

While Im not a big subscriber to the 10 shot group idea it does have some merit. I read a thing a while back that showed that a 5 shot group doesn’t accurately measure a rifles performance, at 100 yards, because statistically it could shoot that many shots close enough to show a smaller group than the rifles true ability.

That being said what is being done here is in no way showcasing the ability of the rifle. There are probably rifle out there by multiple manufacturers that could hypothetically group that. What we are seeing here is the skill of the shooter. I bet that guy could out shoot me any day if I took his bad ass rifle and he took my Remington 700 308.

The larger the sample size the better. :smiley:

You make some valid points. I’m not a fan of 10 shot groups, nor am I a fan of group shooting at 100 yds. Shooting groups at 100 yards will not give you an accurate representation of the true accuracy capability of the rifle or the shooter.

What will give you a true representation of both the rifle and the shooter’s ability is, is to measure the performance of both over multiple outings in different conditions.

Shooting a .250" group at 100 yards does not make that rifle a .250" moa rifle. That’s why Load development should not be conducted at 100 yards if you are working with a rifle that will be used in a long range or extreme range application.
The rifle that I used to shoot the posed groups has been a extremely good shooting rifle. It generally hangs in the 12" group size in the mile if I do my part. I have another one in the stable, a .30-.416 Rigby improved shooting 240 SMK, that hangs in pretty close.
In one outing, I let a friend shoot the .30-.416. He never shot past 100 yards before shooting the mile. With a little instruction, and me in the glass telling him when to break the shot, his first group was in mid teens.
This just goes to show that it’s not really that difficult with good equipment and a little understanding of the game, which is no different than any other sport.

god i wish i had a mile long range.

Tom is a great guy, and the TVP range is awesome. I’ve been out there a few times T&Eing precision shooting gear and he has always been a huge help.

Was there any discussion on why he went from .300 Hulk to 7mm?