11.5" barrel + perm attached silencer close but not under 16" combo inquiry...

General Firearms NFA
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I’m fantasizing about one day in the future having an AR upper with a barrel not shorter than 11.5" and a perm attach silencer that keeps the length as close as reasonably possible to 16" but without going under. This length issue is more important than absolute decibel reduction. However price remains an issue. It might be nice if the can could still be user serviced, but not essential.

Where do you find the actual overall length increase of a can? I notice that most manufacturers don’t mention this on their product info site.

TED

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Trial and error or ask people how much length is added from the shoulder to the end of the suppressor.

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I believe griffin armament has a suppressor that is designed to be pinned on a 10.5" to bring the overall length to 16".

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I’ve been looking into an Ops Inc/Allen Engineering M4m and 12.5 lately. That might work for you, not sure. 16.5 oal, but I’m not sure how you would perm it. There’s a handfull of ~5 in cans out there.
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If I had to attach a can to a barrel, I would look very hard at the Sig direct thread options; the 556 and 556ti. Very good price, lightweight, has an open area covering the threads that would allow easy pinning/welding. Most direct thread cans look like the sandman ti, where the full diameter of the can comes all the way back over the threads of the barrel. That seems like like nightmare to pin and weld. The sig can seems like the best option I know of.

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Wasn’t somebody welding a 1 3/4" diameter 6" sleeve on the end of the barrel. So you could attach a thread on suppressor on the inside. I think they called it their BFH big flash hider.

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Tacsol does that. I’ve only looked at their 22 setups, but here are the full bore ones https://www.tacticalsol.com/tsar/

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What problem are you solving by doing that? Not SBR’ing a lower?

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Permanently attaching a suppressor to a barrel is akin to having unprotected sex in Africa with the hopes that you won’t get HIV.

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That’s racist…but true.

Didn’t someone make or plan to market a 16” OAL assembly that was set up to take the guts if a suppressor once the ATF let it out of jail.

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The one instance I could see having value is in a location that would allow silencers, but not SBRs, of which there are a few states/municipalities in the country that are like that.

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Also no form to take across State lines.

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Are there states that allow suppressors, but not SBR’s for hunting?

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Iraqguns for the win.

It’s a terrible idea for a very specific instance, in which case it is still a terrible idea.

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If this has been discussed else where please post link otherwise please elaborate

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Or you can use the search feature like others and figure it out for yourself.

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I think what they are getting at is that some people regret pinning just a flash hider to a 14.5. A suppressor is orders of magnitude more costly, thus much greater potential for regret. Plus you don’t get to switch the can around to other guns, which is appealing to some people.

Edit: you might be interested in an integrally suppressed upper. I would try googling around for that.

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Yeah I get that you can’t switch around, and it’s a total pain to clean the bore but that is acceptable to me and I did my due diligence in the reasearch I put into the building of my carbine. I also feel suppressor’s are like potato chips, you can’t have just one. I also have a 14.5 with a pinned muzzle brake and definitely like it and will do another in the future when I get through my present build