Hey all, I decided to do the sbr thing.
I am kinda stuck. I had been considering a Model 1 upper but have reconsidered. I am now leaning towards a CMMG but the LMT seems to be the preferred.
If I got the CMMG am I really give up that much quality for the price? I tell you, I really like the LMT but it is quite a bit more $$.
What makes the LMT so much better than the CMMG?
I would really appreciate the help.
There are three LMT 10.5 CQBR uppers in my area. One is mine and all of them are run pretty extensively as far as round count goes. I think the reason you’ll find that LMT is the most prefered is the reliability that comes with the short barrel package from them.
The LMT is also Mil. issue so it comes with a pretty heavily field tested name.
If I understand correctly, they have the MK18 contract? I would prefer to go with the best…who wouldn’t? I guess I just want to know if I went with the CMMG that I would be getting a decent setup based on the price. Put it this way, if you couldn’t buy a LMT for whatever reason, what would be your second choice…CMMG?
I am almost sold on the CMMG because of the price, but what do I give up by not buying the LMT?
Am I giving up accuracy/performance, quality & durability or not?
A CMMG 10.3" upper is $525 with BCG, handguards, and charging handle.
An LMT will run you $485 for the upper, $130 for the BCG, $40 for handguards and $23 for a charging handle for a grand total of $678, or $153 overall premium over the CMMG.
If you’re opting for a railed handguard and want to omit the handguards, the prices go to $525 and $638 for a premium of $133.
Personally, I’d pay the premium. I can’t quantify that because CMMG seems to change their specs as often as most people change their underwear, but having the consistency and the proven track record of the LMT would be worth it to me.
Many vendors will also give you discounts if you order a complete LMT upper with rails from them. Food for thought.
My GUESS would be that CMMG is jumping back and forth between whatever suppliers are cheapest at any given time. Thus, the inconsistancy… but that’s just my uninformed guess.
If I were going 10.5, I wouldn’t consider anything BUT LMT based on their reputation for reliability.
Really?
I really would prefer the LMT, just trying to justify the extra price. If I could find a decent priced vendor that could get me the upper, FF rail of my choice, and the BCG, I would be hard pressed to get the CMMG. I would like to at least save on shipping! Also, what bolt is a $130? I was thinking of going for a Ameetec for $180…wanted to try out that chrome thing!
Forget the Chrome thing, and call Grant at GandRtactical.com. Call to get a quote on your set up. Mention this site. I bet he’ll make you a great deal.
Dang, now I want the LMT. OK, I will give Grant a call and see what kinda deal I can get for myself. I was hoping to get it all done in one shot, I may not be able to do it getting the LMT. If not I guess I will just have start saving some more.
Bolts?? I haven’t seen a thread discussing the different bolts out there. I didn’t feel the need to spend $250 bucks on one. What is the $130 one mentioned above??
I really appreciate the help so far! That is why I came here instead of ARF.com
Definitely give Grant a call and see what he can do for you.
Thanks for the help!
I am on his site now making my list! I will definately be giving him a call.
Wow, looks like he is out of 10.5…maybe he will have them in when I get my paperwork in and back to me. I guess I better check the forums,as I need to fill out this Form 1 in front of me…damn ATF, they have to make all this paperwork hard to understand!!
Thanks
Go ahead and get it in. It’s running about 6-8 weeks now for approval.
I got my LMT 10.5 from Grant, and he included handguards, a charging handle, and a PRI latch. That should help narrow the gap a little between the CMMG and the LMT, if he’s still doing that.
-RD62
Mark, call Grant and try to get an idea of ETA from LMT.
IMHO, any uppem made by either LMT, LWRC, or BCM is a safe bet. I’m sure there are otehrs though.
Rainier Arms does a military/LE/Contractor Discount on them if you qualify.
Might save you about $60
For a 10.5, there is really only one option and that is LMT. What makes them better than CMMG is the barrel steel used, testing done and just overall quality.
C4
Hey Grant,
Looking at your site, it almost seems that a Noveske 10.5 upper would be cheaper? Is that the case?
Oh yeah, I forgot about that! I am Military. That would make a big difference, I might be able to get some other stuff!
It might not be, but would be close.
C4
I bought my 10.5" LMT from Grant back in 2004 and it’s been 100% reliable.