I have two of the 2 point slings from Vltor. I like them but frankly have not run them in a course and really learned how to use them well. I do like them though. In watching the Magpul video’s, they use one points? Which ones do they use “Magpul” I would expect? What do most people run?
I have never been a huge fan of one point slings. Most of the courses I’ve done I used a padded Vitac, which I think is a great sling. That having been said, I’m really giving some thought to switching out to the new Magpul sling and swivel. I like the thought of being able to jump it to a 2 point if needed, but still have the left/right ability of a one point.
- This probably belongs to “Tactical Gear” sub-forum…
- MD guys use single point sling which is attached to a proprietary endplate. No other training group that I know of puts as much emphasis on switching hands in various shooting positions as they do. So for them single point is an obvious choice. Theirs is a good single point sling, but I don’t like it in two-point configuration for anything other than slinging the weapon behind the back.
- This is a good read http://vickerstactical.com/tactical-tips/carbine-slings/.
Thanks. Yes , it should be on that other forum. New to these parts. I read that info you suggested. PB
Moved per several requsts
- MD guys use single point sling which is attached to a proprietary endplate. No other training group that I know of puts as much emphasis on switching hands in various shooting positions as they do. So for them single point is an obvious choice. Theirs is a good single point sling, but I don’t like it in two-point configuration for anything other than slinging the weapon behind the back.
I know Ken Goode used to be a huge advocate on bilaterial shooting and had his guys constantly changing shoulders.
I see the use in being able to fire off of both shoulders, but think constantly switching is somewhat overkill.
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Bennie Cooley is a big proponent of being able to shoot from either side as well.
He uses a VTAC 2 pt sling.
I agree that constantly switching is a bit overkill in a real world situation but in training it is simply another way to build up the muscle memory.
I’ve never trained with Cooley and have only have heard limited things about what he teaches.
Interesting thoughts that is expressed on Magpul’s The Art of the Tactical Carbine Vol. II regarding both 1-point and 2-point sling usage. ![]()
Since I have participated in a few discussions about single versus 2 point versus 3 point slings I went back and dug up the pertinent ones. I only included the ones that had useful info, so reading the entire thread will give the most amount of information. There are tons of threads that cover this topic BTW.
Here are some decent ones-
Single Point Sling Options?
Two Point or Single Point Sling and Why?
Good Bungee Type Sling
Best Sling for the Buck
Sling Advice Needed
had the 2-point, it has its advantages, buts its too much sling for me. so then i opted for the single point, it worked out great, but rubbed my neck raw. saw then i converted to the blue force gear vest sling. attaches to your vest/molle webbing on the back and runs over the shoulders to connect to the rifle right around the breast bone area. its been great so far. and it distributes the weight so well.
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Having carried and trained with 1,2 and 3 point slings I have found a good 2 point adjustable sling to be the best. The 2 anchor points make it the best sling for wraping into for those longer shots (300 yds Standing Off Hand in a recent Spartan Tactical Class). The adjustablility feature accomodates different shooting positions (to include “support side”) quickly and easily.
I am using a 2pt sling I modified myself, but have the Viking Tactics sling as next on my list.
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Of course you like the OSOE version
I took Bennie’s Urban Rifle Instructors class about 7 years ago. That was before single point slings were out. He advocated using a 3 point sling like a single point. Since the class I have liked single point slings.
However I disagreed with Cooley on shoot from your support side with the rifle. Yes you expose less of your body but 90% of shooters out there shoot a lot worse front their weak side and the hit probability goes way down. Better to lean out a bit more and use your strong side and hit what you are aiming at quicker.
Pat
I have been running the BFG Vickers 2 point that I modified to be a convertible single point with a couple of added buckles. Did this long before Magpul came out with theirs. ![]()
Works great, but I run in the 2pt configuration 90% of the time.


my thoughts as well.
I spent a day or two jumping out of planes in NC but never saw guys using 2 points as neck loops (not saying that it wasn’t done). We would run non-adjustable 2 points down the dominant side of our M4s and route our head and support arm through. Using the sling as a neck loop would wear you out if you had it on for any amount of time. You’d wear down that much quicker if you were jumping a 203 or had a bunch of stuff on your carbine.
I use a padded VTAC sling like that when shooting, as a neck loop. I find it helps immensely with cross shoulder transitions. I adjust the length until I can comfortably fire it from my support side without loosening the sling at all. If I need to go hands on then I either run my support arm through the sling and cinch up or run my strong arm through so I can pull it behind me and cinch it up. I only use it the neck loop when firing or expecting to fire.
I agree that if you had to keep it on all the time the neck loop would get old but even then your arms would still be carrying most of the weight.
When I had an M16A2 our unit SOP was to take the parade slings off and tape the forward sling swivel down with 100mph tape to keep it from making noise. If you needed your weapon it was in hand, if you had to do anything else you just set it down. Can’t talk about the 203 as I was always a SAW gunner if I didn’t have my rifle ![]()
A properly adjusted two-point will transition shoulders with no problem. Using it as a neck-loop takes away half of the benefits of the two-point mounting.