H&K Mags

keatsabn · #1 09-19-2007, 02:50 PM

Are these worth the extra money 50.00-65.00 each

AR15barrels · #2 09-19-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keatsabn

Are these worth the extra money 50.00-65.00 each

If you are asking if they are 3x-4x better than a Pmag, then NO.
They are nice mags though.

markm · #3 09-19-2007, 03:07 PM

You should get them.

**KevinB** · #4 09-19-2007, 03:09 PM

IMHO they are not worth the money.
Heavy and awkward - dent easy etc.
A very smooth follower though.

dubb-1 · #5 09-19-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by demigod

You should get them.

Can he use your money?

PMAGS, or upgraded USGIs are just fine. Either way, don't marry your mags. If they don't work, ditch 'em.

BushmasterFanBoy · #6 09-19-2007, 04:32 PM

Get them.

I have 7 of them and they are the best magazines money can buy. Yes they are a little expensive at $60 a pop, but they are honestly the best in my opinion. They have a very nice finish which wears easy, but the finish is their maritime finish, the same used on the HK Mk. 23. Follower, as mentioned, is very sick, the slickest I have ever felt. In my opinion they are a step above the Pmag, but they do not hold up to being run over a truck as well as the Pmags do, and they are a little more expensive. The only drawback to them are the weight, since they are steel.

Renegade · #7 09-19-2007, 04:43 PM

Search the usual sites. They are not hard to find for $40 each.

AR15barrels · #8 09-19-2007, 05:11 PM

I've got a couple Pmags that I have been beating-up in 3gun matches.
When people ask about them, I will generally toss one over my back (fully loaded) and then pick it up off the ground and hand it over for them to look at.

I would not pull that prank with aluminum or steel mags.

Wraith · #9 09-19-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AR15barrels

I've got a couple Pmags that I have been beating-up in 3gun matches.
When people ask about them, I will generally toss one over my back (fully loaded) and then pick it up off the ground and hand it over for them to look at.

I would not pull that prank with aluminum or steel mags.

Ditto. The nice thing about fiber reinforced plastic is that you know when it breaks. You can tell when it's cracked. You can't always tell with metal mags that a spot weld has popped off or it a dent is going to stop your follower from going through the whole range of motion. I've put quite a few rounds through my PMAGs and to be honest they work well enough I don't feel the need to spend anymore money on something else.

DRich · #10 09-19-2007, 05:22 PM

I've had four HK mags...sold them all after a couple of range sessions. I was thoroughly unimpressed. I've also seen a lot of them being used at the range and in training classes.

From my experience and observations, they are reliable when new, but heavier, less durable and 4-5x the cost of PMags. One HK mag certainly isn't worth four USGI/PMags, IMO YMMV, of course.

Skintop911 · #11 09-19-2007, 07:28 PM

With the availability of the C-Products SS mag and the Magpul PMag, there isn't any compelling reason to pay the premium for par performance.

Joseywales · #12 09-19-2007, 08:04 PM

Why is everyone having so many mag problems? I have C-products mags with Magpul followers and mag pull base plates. Never had a problem. Try spraying the internals with Moly lube.

BushmasterFanBoy · #13 09-19-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseywales

Why is everyone having so many mag problems? I have C-products mags with Magpul followers and mag pull base plates. Never had a problem. Try spraying the internals with Moly lube.

I've never had any problems with my 7 GI mags (Green Followers). It's just added piece of mind knowing all the HK propaganda that is behind your magazine, plus they have really smoooooooooooooth followers.

M4Guru · #14 09-19-2007, 09:22 PM

HK mgas cannot even come close to matching the durability of simple USGI mags that cost $8. I have thrown hundreds of bad ones in the trash.

PMAGs look REAL good so far. I am hesitant to call them "the answer" because I thought the HK mags were the end-all be-all until they all crapped out on me. I don't want to make that mistake again until they're proven. They are light, and have very smooth followers, and are very impact resistant.

Steve · #15 09-19-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BushmasterFanBoy

Get them.

They have a very nice finish which wears easy, but the finish is their maritime finish, the same used on the HK Mk. 23. .

Who cares about fit and finish and finish wear?

yeesh.

yes i own some there nice mags they work

so do my pmags and my DH and a few of my cps actually run. others havent

save the money.

Larry Vickers · #16 09-19-2007, 10:40 PM

I have alot of experience with HK M16 mags and can no longer recommend them due to some issues the current version has - particularly at the price they sell at

I have been using some PMAGS with good results - my recommendation is buy a few (for the price of one HK mag) and try them

Good luck

Larry Vickers

www.vickerstactical.com

Steve · #17 09-19-2007, 10:47 PM

Larry,

I hear its alot of spring related issues?

Joe Mamma · #18 09-19-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Vickers

I have alot of experience with HK M16 mags and can no longer recommend them due to some issues the current version has www.vickerstactical.com

Can someone give details about this?

Thanks.

Joe Mamma

Gunfixr · #19 09-20-2007, 02:39 AM

Ok then, if the HK mags aren't worth the money, then would one be better off buying the CProducts aluminum mags with the Magpul followers at say $12.50 or the Magpul PMags at say $14.50? Are the PMags better enough for the 2 bucks per mag? As of yet, I don't really have any, so I'm starting from the ground up, and don't want a bunch of junk I just have to replace. If I buy 10 of the CProducts mags, I can get them for $11. Is it worth the $3.50 each to get the PMags?

Edited to add: I just looked at the window vs. non window PMag thread and saw the truck test. I'm pretty sure any aluminum mag would've failed that. Maybe I should just spend the 3 bucks per mag and be done with it. I don't need the window. It's either full, or I'm still pulling the trigger.

AR15barrels · #20 09-20-2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunfixr

Ok then, if the HK mags aren't worth the money, then would one be better off buying the CProducts aluminum mags with the Magpul followers at say $12.50 or the Magpul PMags at say $14.50? Are the PMags better enough for the 2 bucks per mag? As of yet, I don't really have any, so I'm starting from the ground up, and don't want a bunch of junk I just have to replace. If I buy 10 of the CProducts mags, I can get them for $11. Is it worth the $3.50 each to get the PMags?

Get the Pmags.
Brownells and Midway offer them at dealer pricing if you can find them in-stock.