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Old 09-16-2009, 09:27 PM
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Sig AR?

via http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ and sigforum

SIG 516

what are your thoughts?

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Old 09-16-2009, 09:56 PM
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Did they sign some kind of contract with Troy Industries?
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:42 PM
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That is exactly what is missing from the AR15 market... not.

I guess they hope to capitalize on the SIG name to sell rifles. Now a 55x series type upper for a AR lower, that might be interesting.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:22 AM
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Ultra gay and lame especially with the billet lower. They just can't get it figured out.

Releasing a 7" gun proves further they don't have a clue.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:11 AM
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Priceless.

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Old 09-17-2009, 02:20 AM
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Wow. What the hell is going on over at SIG. Just make the SG551 and stop being stupid. And that shitty mag is still part of the deal.

Is this a concession that the 556 was a stupid idea? If you can beat em, join em, type thing...

Here is more info:

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The SIG516 Tactical Rifle line has three different models:

* SIG516 PDW : 7" barrel. A personal defense weapon (pictured above).
* SIG516 CQB : 10" barrel. A Colt M4 Commando equvelent.
* SIG516 BASELINE CARBINE : 14.5" barrel. A M4 Carbine equvelent.
* SIG516 Patrol. 16" barrel.
* SIG516 Tactical Marksman: 16" barrel A squad level sniper / designated marksmen rifle.
* SIG516 Precision Marksman: 20" barrel. Possibly a true sniper rifle, or designated marksmen rifle.

They are all piston operated and feature an adjustable gas regulator like the Ruger SR-556.


Who the hell cares? where is this, that's what I want to know?

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Old 09-17-2009, 02:54 AM
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A 551 would be nice.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:56 AM
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Ooooooooh! Now I can finally match my AR to my handgun!
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:20 AM
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My guess is that they were starting to get some market feed back that SW could sell them M&P handguns and AR rifles in package deals. If that is true, I wonder how Glock will respond? Just a guess on my part.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:26 AM
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Another day, another AR manufacture...I guess this shows how much faith Sig has in their 556 rifles.
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At least they didn't dress this one from the Tapco catalog.

Options are rarely a bad thing.

I'd like to see who their subs are, and how they fit in the chart.

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Old 09-17-2009, 09:52 AM
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Maybe its the stock and the Ergo grip, but it looks kinda LMT MRPish to me. I'm still curious to see how its put together.

This was at a recent gun show here, I believe he was asking in the $8-9,000 range, new, unfired, with the original box. Maybe closer to 10K, can't remember exactly.

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What DOES interest me about this is the optic. I'm curious if the mount cowitnesses at all and if not, are the irons still usable.

Trijicon, release the RMR mounts already. Geez.
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:24 AM
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"My guess is that they were starting to get some market feed back that SW could sell them M&P handguns and AR rifles in package deals. If that is true, I wonder how Glock will respond?"

Good question. My hopes are; polymer pistol from Austria teamed with a polymer rifle from Austria. Steyr AUG, Baby! Yeah!
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:48 PM
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Well after my less than pleasant experiences with my 2 SIG 556 (thankfully gone now), and my current NIB, recent manufacture .40 S&W P229R (rust on some fire control parts, abnormal wear on barrel), I'm not coming within 5 feet of this.... IMHO, way better choices (Colt, Noveske, LMT, DD, etc.) available if I were to be in the M4 market again.

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Wow. What the hell is going on over at SIG. Just make the SG551 and stop being stupid.
I hate the shoddy furniture on the 556, but once you put a 551 handguard and a decent stock on it, what is the allure of the original 551 over the 556? The proprietary rock-and-lock mags? The lack of a standard rail? The inability to mount a stock that's LOP adjustable? The extra pound or so of weight? The enormously overrated diopter sights?

I'll concede that the actual cost of a 556 is $400+ higher once you purchase all the accoutrements, but after that it's superior to the 551.

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Old 09-17-2009, 07:21 PM
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WOW, how about tuning the sig556 instead.

Put the charging handle on the left side, easier to reach mag release, among other concerns.

Instead, they bring out another AR.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:34 PM
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Nothing innovative. Fix the 556 and drive on. Stupid.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:19 PM
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I'm sure the Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse crowd will absolutely drool.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:19 PM
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Who isn't getting into the AR business now? That list seems to get shorter every day. The market is simply saturated now with AR brands. SIG must be gambling that they can leverage their LE pistol sales into LE carbines sales, but that seems a risky bet considering the plethora of ARs that have hit the market over the past three years.
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