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Old 02-18-2009, 10:09 AM
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Hackathorn Standards

Hey guys this is one of our favourite drills, sorry about the format, couldn't figure out how to insert a table.....have fun

Handgun Standard Exercise: Hackathorn Standards
Course Designer: Ken Hackathorn
Source: Larry Vickers (former CAG Lead Firearms Instructor)

300 Points 60 Rounds No Make Up Shots
IPSC Target:
A = 5 C = 3 D = 2 Entire Head = 5
All stages start holstered unless otherwise noted.
250+ Expert
200-249 Acceptable
Below 200 Needs Improvement

Notes:
Originally designed for IPSC targets; IDPA target are slightly more difficult (smaller 5 zone).
Highest Score Ever: Larry Vickers 298
Highest First Time Score: Rob Leatham 290
Jerry Barnhart's First Time Score: 277

Targets: 3 IPSC, 1m spacing, staggered medium-high-low height

#1--5 yards--1 rd on each head from draw freestyle--3 sec
#2--5 yards--1 rd on each head strong hand--4 sec
#3--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
#4--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
#5--8 yards--2 rds on left target freestyle--2 sec
#6--8 yards--2 rds on center target freestyle--2 sec
#7--8 yards--2 rds on right target freestyle--2 sec
#8--10 yards--El Presidente; start facing uprange w/6 rds in gun, turn and draw, 2 rds each target, slide lock reload, 2 rds on each target--10 seconds
#9--10 yards--weak hand pickup; gun on ground, butt to strong side, start standing, strong hand in small of back, retrieve handgun, 1 rd on each target--5 sec
#10--12 to 8 yards--2 rds each target while moving forward from 12 yds--5 sec
#11--15 yards--transition drill; start with hands at shoulder level as if holding rifle, 1 rd on each target--4 sec
#12--20 yards--start standing; drop to prone, 2 rds on each target--10 sec
#13--25 yards--start behind barricade; 2 rds on each target standing, perform tactical reload under cover(retain/stow partial mag), 2 rds on each target kneeling--24 sec
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:03 PM
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Thanks, this is a great drill!
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" Highest Score Ever: Larry Vickers 298 " .........Curious if anyone knew what Larry was shooting ?
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Old 02-18-2009, 08:19 PM
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Custom 1911 pistol in .45 ACP - it has been awhile but I think it was a pistol I built

I had 1 rd approx 1 inch out of the A zone - FYI; this is the course of fire the IDPA classifier is based on

enjoy it - best 60 rd test of handgun skill I have ever seen

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Custom 1911 pistol in .45 ACP - it has been awhile but I think it was a pistol I built

I had 1 rd approx 1 inch out of the A zone - FYI; this is the course of fire the IDPA classifier is based on

enjoy it - best 60 rd test of handgun skill I have ever seen

cheers

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Thanks alot for the info Larry, take care.

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Old 02-18-2009, 09:25 PM
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FYI; this is the course of fire the IDPA classifier is based on
It looked familiar. I figured either the above test came out of the IDPA classifier or vice versa.

Gives us a different set of drills to work toward. Thanks.
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I shot this drill this week in Moyock and it was a butt kicker. Not quite as bad as the 700 point aggregate (sp), but it will Truely test you.
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Custom 1911 pistol in .45 ACP - it has been awhile but I think it was a pistol I built

I had 1 rd approx 1 inch out of the A zone - FYI; this is the course of fire the IDPA classifier is based on

enjoy it - best 60 rd test of handgun skill I have ever seen

cheers

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You would probably have made that shot if your 1911 had Big Dots installed.

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You would probably have made that shot if your 1911 had Big Dots installed.

Big Dots are for fightin' what are you talkin' a-bout?
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I must bring up the point that Rob Leatham may very well have cleaned (300 pts) this course of fire - last time I talked to him about it a few years ago it was one of his regular drills (meaning he shot it fairly often) and he was routinely shooting well into the 290's - my guess, knowing Rob, he has maxed it - and make no mistake he is capable of maxing it with no problem

For anyone who has never seen him shoot he is, without question, the greatest handgun shooter who ever lived - I have seen him do things with a pistol that I would have never believed if I had not witnessed it

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I'm still convinced that Rob is at least part alien!
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These look like a nice complement to the 700 point aggregate, AKA "The Humbler".
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Thumbs up

thanks for posting this.

printed this out.

i think i'im going to have to practice the presidente and the shooting on the move with dry fire.

no range with big boys rules.
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#3--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
#4--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
Is there a reason why these are the same, or is it a typo?
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Good drill. Thanks for posting.

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For anyone who has never seen him shoot he is, without question, the greatest handgun shooter who ever lived - I have seen him do things with a pistol that I would have never believed if I had not witnessed it.
Agreed, and a class act as well.
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These look like a nice complement to the 700 point aggregate, AKA "The Humbler".
Could you expand on the "The Humbler". I know I've heard of it, or even read about it, but can't recall at this time.

..Thanks
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Blake,

PM sent to you.
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Blake,

PM sent to you.
Wayne,

Thanks.... I'll put that into my training curriculum for range practice. Sounds very challenging.

Thanks again
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#3--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
#4--5 yards--1 rd on each body strong hand--3 sec
Is there a reason why these are the same, or is it a typo?

Not a typo, you have to do that evolution twice
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