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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Pmags have issues too. But at least we know about them, and they are fixing them.

    I keep hearing about HK mag issues, but nobody is telling. Mine work fine.
    What issues are the Pmags having?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shihan View Post
    What issues are the Pmags having?

    Feed problems resulting in two re-spins in the last 6 months. The first was for mags date-stamped 03/07 and earlier, the second for 06/07 and earlier. They had a free replacement program.

    More on their web page, but here is a short blurb:

    It has come to the attention of Magpul Industries Corp that a number of users have experienced feeding problems with their PMAGs™ due to unusually tight magazine bodies. The primary symptom is sluggish follower response, or snagging when loaded with more than 20 rounds. These issues are a result of dimensional changes occurring after the PMAG™ left the Magpul factory, and only affect the PMAG™ body. Other PMAG™ components such as the follower, lock plate, floor plate, and impact cover are unaffected.

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    What are the issues with the 416 mags?
    Let those who are fond of blaming and finding fault, while they sit safely at home, ask, ‘Why did you not do thus and so?’I wish they were on this voyage; I well believe that another voyage of a different kind awaits them.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by P7Guru View Post
    What are the issues with the 416 mags?
    I think it's just that they wear out and won't take the abuse of a Pmag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P7Guru View Post
    What are the issues with the 416 mags?
    I have 7 I used for competition. I said used because I've quit using them.

    4 of the 7 won't lock the bolt back now. And 1 just caused the first double feed at the Blackwater side rifle match on Sunday (friend was shooting my rifle). So all 7 are for range-only use now. I used PMAGs Sunday with my 10" LMT which have run 100% thus far in 3K rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Feed problems resulting in two re-spins in the last 6 months. The first was for mags date-stamped 03/07 and earlier, the second for 06/07 and earlier. They had a free replacement program.

    More on their web page, but here is a short blurb:

    It has come to the attention of Magpul Industries Corp that a number of users have experienced feeding problems with their PMAGs™ due to unusually tight magazine bodies. The primary symptom is sluggish follower response, or snagging when loaded with more than 20 rounds. These issues are a result of dimensional changes occurring after the PMAG™ left the Magpul factory, and only affect the PMAG™ body. Other PMAG™ components such as the follower, lock plate, floor plate, and impact cover are unaffected.

    Those issues have been resolved so its really a non-isue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shihan View Post
    Those issues have been resolved so its really a non-isue.
    That is why I wrote "they are fixing them." Hopefully their will not be a 3rd recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    That is why I wrote "they are fixing them." Hopefully their will not be a 3rd recall.
    Hmm

    Magpul has some problems with a new product, that they developed on their own dime, and are acting in a admirable manner to make sure that anyone who has a problem with the problem can get the issue fixed.

    H&K has a problem with a product that a gotv't originally paid for them to develope, and will not even sell you the parts to fix it on your own dime.

    I know who will be gettting my $ for mags and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan_Bell View Post
    Hmm

    Magpul has some problems with a new product, that they developed on their own dime, and are acting in a admirable manner to make sure that anyone who has a problem with the problem can get the issue fixed.

    H&K has a problem with a product that a gotv't originally paid for them to develope, and will not even sell you the parts to fix it on your own dime.

    I know who will be gettting my $ for mags and more.
    Heck, I cannot even get folks to tell me what the HK Mag problems are! They must have sworn everyone to secrecy.

    I would say MAGPULs behavior is EXEMPLAR. I hope to make PMAGS my standard mag, I really like them, especially the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Heck, I cannot even get folks to tell me what the HK Mag problems are!
    I think the main problem is HK's price and customer service attitude.
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