Remington ACR A-TACS Camo pics

[kodiak22]

Originally Posted by olds442tyguy

I was talking about the actual rails themselves, not the rail system. If you look at the pictures I posted, you can see that one variant uses an aluminum chassis to which rails are added to the hand guard, but the other has the rails made integral to the rail system. Both are supposed to be the latest revisions too, which is where my confusion comes from.


And regarding the pistol, supposedly no company owned by Cerberus currently produces a traditional handgun. I wonder if that's about to change???

ah ok, my mistake.

[Shotdown]

Originally Posted by Ak44

It looks okay, better than the current ACU. Doesn't look as good as multicam though in my eyes...

I do like multicam but I'd like to see both tested side by side in the field.

[ClosetCaseNerd]

Still, much like ACU, it seems to not have enough green in it.

[Falboy]

I wonder if Remington is planing to offer the guns that way? Too bad I'm pretty heavily invested in Multicam allready........It's allways nice to have more options. Have you guys seen the digital version of Multicam that paintballers are using? Seems pretty good too. Our current military uniforms are just crap for concealment......I mean where is that they thought it would work? I personally can't imagine.

[keller]

Looks like it works in an urban environment. Would like to see some pics of it around some greenery.

[eodinert]

I would consider the possibility that the guns are fake (as in airsoft)..

The pattern reminds me of the Czech desert that was around a few years ago..

[QuietShootr]

What I can see of that pattern, I like. I would like to see more. Is it too early for a SHOT thread?

[keller]

http://www.a-tacs.com/

[pantshacker]

This was pointed out to me by somebody else:

Take a look at this picture:
http://www.seacoastmarines.com/USMC%...dingDamage.jpg

From this page:
http://www.seacoastmarines.com/Terro...20Maltais.html

Look familiar? Look again at the promo photograph:
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...tacs0002-1.jpg

No wonder some of the backgrounds look blurry.

[uspopo]

So the ACR is not really painted in the A-TACs camo pattern but photoshopped?

[kodiak22]

Originally Posted by uspopo

So the ACR is not really painted in the A-TACs camo pattern but photoshopped?

According to the EoTac pres on Lightfighter, no nothing is photoshopped in the photo.

[variablebinary]

Originally Posted by olds442tyguy

I was talking about the actual rails themselves, not the rail system. If you look at the pictures I posted, you can see that one variant uses an aluminum chassis to which rails are added to the hand guard, but the other has the rails made integral to the rail system. Both are supposed to be the latest revisions too, which is where my confusion comes from.

There is a new ad in a gun rag, I forget which, but it has a photo of the ACR with a rail that is different even from what you posted.

I'd also like clarification about the gas block design. The new images show the gas block sticking way out in front of the rail, which would mean images of the 10.5" model wouldn't be possible at all

I do not like the rail from the AAC shoot one bit. Personally, I like this rail best and hope it isnt scrapped. Note the differences in gas block presentation as well.

[uspopo]

Originally Posted by kodiak22

According to the EoTac pres on Lightfighter, no nothing is photoshopped in the photo.

That I find hard to believe as the soldier doesn't seem to fit exactly into enviroment around him. They should hire better graphic artists. Back to topic, I can't wait for this bad boy to come out!!

[Vash1023]

multicam is and probably will stay the best for a very long time.

[olds442tyguy]

VB, from what I've seen the 10.5's use a carbine length gas system, with anything up to 16" using mid length.

As for the other rail, I've come to the half assed conclusion that model shown at the shoot looks like an LMG.

-The barrel nut looks different. Not only does it have that black box like extension connected to the receiver and barrel nut, it also looks like it uses screws for barrel attachment instead of the built in barrel wrench.

-It has a heavily vented aluminum hand guard. If you look at the attachment points, it looks as if the hand guard on this version does not interchange with any of the others. Notice how it bolts on forward of the barrel nut, rather than having the quick detach system of the others.

-That off model shown at the shoot has a full profile heavy barrel.

[Shadow1198]

Originally Posted by uspopo

That I find hard to believe as the soldier doesn't seem to fit exactly into enviroment around him. They should hire better graphic artists. Back to topic, I can't wait for this bad boy to come out!!

I agree, that photo definitely looks p-chopped. Look at the knee pad areas, the weird blur around the crotch area, look at the contrast difference between the individual and background, the lighting and shadows foreground vs background don't look right etc.

[variablebinary]

Originally Posted by olds442tyguy

VB, from what I've seen the 10.5's use a carbine length gas system, with anything up to 16" using mid length.

As for the other rail, I've come to the half assed conclusion that model shown at the shoot looks like an LMG.

-The barrel nut looks different. Not only does it have that black box like extension connected to the receiver and barrel nut, it also looks like it uses screws for barrel attachment instead of the built in barrel wrench.

-It has a heavily vented aluminum hand guard. If you look at the attachment points, it looks as if the hand guard on this version does not interchange with any of the others. Notice how it bolts on forward of the barrel nut, rather than having the quick detach system of the others.

-That off model shown at the shoot has a full profile heavy barrel.

Take a look at the ad in "Special Weapons for M&P". You'll see what I mean about the handguard. It looks different from anything else seen on the ACR. It's a hybrid between the old rail I prefer and the skeletonized rail from the AAC shoot.

I wonder if the manipulation and changes to the rail are related to attempts at weight reduction/balance/handling.

I still the rail pictured here best.



This is what is on the cover

[variablebinary]

Looks like both rails are represented while the ACR is being tested. The rail with the XTM covers is the model I prefer

[olds442tyguy]

VB, a guy on TOS who apparently works in the ACR project clarified a lot of things in Magpul's industry forum. The solid rail is out, and the black block I speculated on earlier is actually the attachment system specifically for the railed hand guards. The ones shown in your recent pictures are likely the production railed HG's. I would have stuck with the original one piecers myself. Keep it simple and all that. No bolt on rails and no special attachment blocks.

I'd still like to see gas systems specified. In the one picture you posted they show the same carbine length gas system on the 10.5, 14.5, and the 18, yet in those other pictures above they are undeniably using a mid length gas set up. I remember Magpul saying they were only going to use carbine length in the beginning, but the mid length has reared it's ugly (aesthetically) head with seemingly every revision.


I just want a 14.5" FDE ACR with the folder and a polymer rifle length hand guard. Is that too much to ask?

[RHR]

Originally Posted by variablebinary

There is a new ad in a gun rag, I forget which, but it has a photo of the ACR with a rail that is different even from what you posted.

I saw the same ad in Soldier of Fortune mag. Here's a couple of pics from the ad I took with my cell phone.