AR Gold Trigger

[steveh0203]

Thinking about replacing my Timney trigger with a AR Gold trigger.Has anyone had any experience with the AR Gold

[QuietShootr]

Yes. It's probably the best of the crop currently available for DMR-type rifles. I know the Geissele mafia will be along in a second to set me straight, but it's my opinion. Because of its sear/hammer geometry, it's easier to adjust for a LIGHT but still solid and reliable trigger. And (the biggest thing for hard use, as far as I'm concerned) it is safer than any other match trigger design out there. In the unlikely event you were to drop or jar the weapon hard enough to release the sear, a secondary safety sear will arrest the fall of the hammer. The weapon can then be fired normally off the safety sear, though the trigger pull will be heavier. This enables a safe, light pull that would be unsafe in a lesser trigger.

It's a solid unit.

[Cold]

Originally Posted by steveh0203

Thinking about replacing my Timmney trigger with a AR Gold trigger.Has anyone had any experience with the AR Gold

I shoot with a guy who runs an AR Gold. I run a G.A. DMR and like the G.A. DMR however I have shot the AR Gold and feel it is a great trigger. If thats what you want, I think it will serve you well.

Here is a video of it in action, the guy in the bright green/blue shirt is using an AR Gold trigger, and he runs it well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpY68W6yXmY

Right around 1.20 in the video you see the trigger before hand.

[steveh0203]

I was told that the AR Gold has the shortest reset was the main reason I was thinking about trying it.

[QuietShootr]

Originally Posted by steveh0203

I was told that the AR Gold has the shortest reset was the main reason I was thinking about trying it.

It's very short, but it does not snap positively like a stock trigger. In fact, it's almost imperceptible. I found this really irritating at first, then I learned how to shoot it. Once you stop worrying about the boot camp 'ease-to-reset' shit, you can shoot incredibly fast.

[eternal24k]

Interesting, I might consider one for my .308 build, would like to hear more.

[USMC1341]

anyway to make the gold trigger work in my Colt? Seems my pins are not the correct size for it...

[QuietShootr]

No, it won't work in large pin guns or receivers with a sear block.

[QuietShootr]

Originally Posted by eternal24k

Interesting, I might consider one for my .308 build, would like to hear more.

http://www.americantrigger.com/

[RetreatHell]

I would ONLY get this trigger in a precision rifle (i.e. a SPR or dedicated semi-auto sniper rifle). I've shot it on a friend's SBR and it does NOT belong on one of those or any type of defensive rifle in my opinion.

It reminds me very much of a hair trigger on a bolt gun, but that might just be me.

I can't speak to the quality of the AR Gold trigger, but until a lot more people are using one I wouldn't personally get it myself. But that's just me.

Unless you are using a precision gun, in my opinion you should always just stick to the factory mil-spec trigger that comes with your lower. I have one Geissle 2-stage SSA in a Larue lower that I like when shooting at 100+ yards, but I don't really like it for close-in training because it occasionally "double clutches." I have a KAC 2-stage in my SR-15 E3 lower that came with it, but once it wears out I'll be replacing it with a standard mil-spec trigger. My other 3 lowers all have mil-spec triggers.

That's all just my experience and knowledge I've gained from shooters here and elsewhere (and carbine course instructors) who are much more skilled and experienced and, in most cases, have much more time behind the gun in actual gunfights than I do. So I listen to them and pass the knowledge on when the opportunity presents itself.

Semper Fi,

Paul

[USMC1341]

That's too bad. I liked this trigger from what I read on it, but my 6920 is just a few clicks south of when they switched over to the different pin size. I was hoping there might be a way to retro fit it. Maybe they will make a separate version in the future?

[Sparky5019]

I'm a relative Newby but...

I LOVE MINE!!

Sparky

[tirod]

Relatively heavy, gritty triggers have long been part and parcel of military weapons - especially compared to range/target rifles. Take out the necessary budgeting and competitive bidding of weapons, you could have much better triggers.

Not necessarily lighter ones, tho. Aside from the institutional groupthink of bureaucracy, a heavier trigger offers less opportunity for unintentional discharges in active movement during contact. What isn't well known is where the 6 to 10 pound figure came from. Who tested that when. and what train of argument came to the conclusion? It's been around for a long time.

Considering milspec triggers are "heavy," why use a competitive sport trigger on a combat weapon? I see a lot of crossover in the civilian side assuming that race parts must be superior. If you drive a 785 hp circle track car to work and enjoy 4MPG and a complete inability to idle at stoplights, I probably won't convince you.

Point being, race car or race gun. high performance parts don't often work on daily drivers. Reliability is the characteristic more highly prized.

A high performance trigger that can't be trusted doing entry team work is not reliable. Picking and choosing parts from disparate uses creates something that isn't good for either.

Problem is, you have to wade through all the gaff from those who sell them and the happy customers who enjoy them. Very often, they use societal constructs to impress listeners.

Show me where infantrymen with 8 months incountry are benefited, I'll listen. I don't drive a circle track car.

[00bullitt]

The ATC AR gold is as reliable as any mil spec trigger I have ever run. Its fully adjustable too. I run one in my competition 3 gun rifle set at 2# and run one in my SBR work rifle set at 4#. Never had a problem from either. My competition rifle sees more rounds in a month than most folks put through there guns in a year. Its going on season 3 without an issue or readjustment.

As for the reset. I wasn't too fond of it being so light either so I called up Ronin Coleman and talked to him about it. He sent me two springs that were slightly stiffer that made the reset feel a bit more tactile. I prefer the more tactile reset myslef.

I am totally impressed with the reliability and clean break and short reset of the AR Gold.

[Mike from Texas]

Originally Posted by 00bullitt

The ATC AR gold is as reliable as any mil spec trigger I have ever run. Its fully adjustable too. I run one in my competition 3 gun rifle set at 2# and run one in my SBR work rifle set at 4#. Never had a problem from either. My competition rifle sees more rounds in a month than most folks put through there guns in a year. Its going on season 3 without an issue or readjustment.

As for the reset. I wasn't too fond of it being so light either so I called up Ronin Coleman and talked to him about it. He sent me two springs that were slightly stiffer that made the reset feel a bit more tactile. I prefer the more tactile reset myslef.

I am totally impressed with the reliability and clean break and short reset of the AR Gold.

So exactly what springs did they send? I called and asked about this yesterday and the person I spoke with knew nothing about this.

[QuietShootr]

You need to ask for Ronin. He's the guy who designed it and knows it inside and out. Tell him what you want (heavier reset, heavier first stage, whatever) and he'll square you away.

[Sparky5019]

I LOVE mine! I can routinely get 4-5 shot bursts that sound like full auto and are perfectly accurate! You'll love it and it is well worth the money!

Sparky

[geminidglocker]

The guys in that video seem to like the Lancer mag as well.

[Mike from Texas]

Originally Posted by Sparky5019

I LOVE mine! I can routinely get 4-5 shot bursts that sound like full auto and are perfectly accurate! You'll love it and it is well worth the money!

Sparky

Well that's certainly NOT what I am looking for.

[Mike from Texas]

Originally Posted by QuietShootr

You need to ask for Ronin. He's the guy who designed it and knows it inside and out. Tell him what you want (heavier reset, heavier first stage, whatever) and he'll square you away.

I'll give him a call tomorrow, thanks.