'Cop Killer' Gun Used In Ft. Hood Shooting, Officials Said

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Here we go...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cop-ki...ory?id=9019521

'Cop Killer' Gun Used In Ft. Hood Shooting, Officials Said
Suspected Massacre Weapon Purchased Legally At 'Guns Galore' Shop in Texas
By MATTHEW COLE, PIERRE THOMAS, JASON RYAN, and RICHARD ESPOSITO
Nov. 6, 2009

The gun thought to be used in the Fort Hood massacre packs so much firepower, it's known as 'the Cop Killer,' federal law enforcement officials said.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly packed a FN Herstal Five-seveN tactical pistol, which according to federal law enforcement officials, was legally purchased from the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas in Aug. 2009. The store's manager, David Cheadle, said that particular firearm can hold 20 rounds in a standard clip and take a ten round clip extension. Cheadle said with one clip and one round in the chamber, one could fire 31 rounds before reloading.

Hasan may have used an expanded clip in the shooting.

On FN Herstal's webpage, the benefits of the Five-seveN pistol note that it can "defeat the enemy in all close combat situations in urban areas, jungle conditions, night missions and any self defense action."

The second gun he had with him was a .357 S&W Magnum revolver, federal law enforcement officials tell ABC News. Ballistics are still being run to determine if he used the revolver in the shooting.

Federal agents, military investigators and Texas Rangers had been investigating whether the gun allegedly used by Hasan was purchased at "Guns Galare," Cheadle told ABC News.

"They called last night and asked about a specific name and gun purchase, but the name was not Hasan," said Cheadle.

Three investigators, including one wearing a Texas Rangers badge, were seen entering the store just before noon Friday. The manager said they were interviewing all of the store employees.

They declined to comment as they left Guns Galore in a car with Department of Defense markings.

The manager said he recognized a photo shown to him of Major Nidal Malik Hasan, identified by authorities as the suspect shooter at Fort Hood. But he said Hasan would have had to show identification if he had bought the gun in his name.

Cheadle said the agents were interested in a FN pistol that uses 5.7 caliber ammunition.

[RancidSumo]

And it begins...

[Spade]

Are you friggin kidding me. If I ever make a gun I'm going to name it something like the Ultra Baby Skull Splitter just so the media has something ready for the headlines.

[whiterabbit05]

And for the last time, it's not a clip, it's called a magazine...

At least they didn't call it an AK-47.

[RancidSumo]

I'd bet that the .357 would have been just as deadly if not more so as the 5.7.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Originally Posted by RancidSumo

I'd bet that the .357 would have been just as deadly if not more so as the 5.7.

Not to get into a ballistics ball-buster, but I'd have to think that would be true, except I wonder if he thought he'd run into body armoured responders. Here I thought he had a couple of of 9MMs with FMJ and that is why there were so many thru and thru wounds.

[skyugo]

guess it's time to ban guns from military bases.

[NinjaMedic]

Wow I cant imagine the body count if he had been using a more lethal caliber with high quality ammo.

[Shamdawg]

Originally Posted by whiterabbit05

And for the last time, it's not a clip, it's called a magazine...

At least they didn't call it an AK-47.

Hate to say this, but that will not be the last time.

The media feeding frenzy will make every inquiry into the latest gospel. Very sad.

[Gentoo]

If I had to pick, I would rather have gotten shot by that evil hi-capacity, automatic, cop killing, armor penetrating, invisible on xrays, baby killing, resistant to fingerprints death ray with a shoulder thing that goes up then the boring old non-noteworthy .357 revolver.....

[ThirdWatcher]

If there was any kinda "failure" here, it doesn't lie with FN Herstal or any gun dealer.

[mark5pt56]

I think there's more to this story that we'll never know. In my opinion, this guys has received some training somewhere other than the US Army.

[Abraxas]

Who ever called it a "cop killer" must have been talking to that jackass out in LA that said that the five seven and P90 were used for hunting lions and tigers and bears.http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread....t=Lions+tigers
Where do these people come up with this crap?

[Abraxas]

Originally Posted by Spade

Are you friggin kidding me. If I ever make a gun I'm going to name it something like the Ultra Baby Skull Splitter just so the media has something ready for the headlines.

Maybe you should have sent this name in for you idea to Wilson Combat. Sure beats Spec ops 9

[sadmin]

Originally Posted by mark5pt56

I think there's more to this story that we'll never know. In my opinion, this guys has received some training somewhere other than the US Army.

agree, i think too much thought is being placed into the cartridge itself, rather than the consideration of weekend jaunts to the local radical Jihad camp to take "tactical pistol for assholes". I dont get the feeling this slug was pulling 7oclock shifts during this rampage.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I saw some media report that he had 'extensive' handgun training in the Army. I don't know what that means. Did he qual with it or something? Train with Delta?

But to take a step back, why in this case are we supposed to not rush to judegment, but the cop in MA acted stupidly?

[Irish]

Originally Posted by Abraxas

Maybe you should have sent this name in for you idea to Wilson Combat. Sure beats Spec ops 9

Point!

[John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted by mark5pt56

I think there's more to this story that we'll never know. In my opinion, this guys has received some training somewhere other than the US Army.

I'm thinking you're right.

Hopefully the guys who wear the big letters on their windbreakers will carefully trace this guy's history and find out where he learned jihad.

[John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

I saw some media report that he had 'extensive' handgun training in the Army. I don't know what that means. Did he qual with it or something? Train with Delta?

But to take a step back, why in this case are we supposed to not rush to judegment, but the cop in MA acted stupidly?

The media assumes that the military gives "extensive" training, and that's more than likely where it comes from...that and a woeful ignorance of how much skill and ability it takes to shoot helpless people. As the story was unfolding I heard lots of talking heads say that the body count had to be the result of a group of bad guys...this despite the fact that VT was only a couple of years ago.

One worthless fuck with relatively little firepower...and a guaranteed victim zone where nobody can shoot back...can rack up quite a body count before the cops can come and punch his ticket.

[THE FROG]

Blame the Army! He should have been discharged long ago.