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Larry Vickers' Chicom Type 81S
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Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.
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09-19-2009, 08:18 PM
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Thank you Tim and thank you LAV. That is a very exclusive look at that rifle, surely not to be seen outside of museums in the USA.
Odd, though, to have a safety shaped like a trigger and inside the trigger guard.
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09-19-2009, 09:07 PM
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Great pics. Thanks Tim and Larry. I assume this is a post-86 machinegun?
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09-19-2009, 09:24 PM
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WOW!
That is beautiful!
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09-19-2009, 09:35 PM
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There was an article in SAW about this model a little while ago.
Couple questions:
Is this a full-auto version?
Was this imported at one time as a semi-auto gun?
How does LAV get all these cool guns? I am assuming he has a SOT or something like that.
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09-19-2009, 10:36 PM
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I hate you Larry, I really, really hate you! 
Just kidding! 
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09-19-2009, 10:50 PM
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Very sweet. SKS like gas piston in an AK like that.
Thanks for sharing.
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09-19-2009, 10:51 PM
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Tang Wenlie designed that bad boy.
I'll bet that sucker has better follow-thru than an AK because of its short stroke piston.
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Great pics. Thanks Tim and Larry. I assume this is a post-86 machinegun?
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Actually, no, it's one of the VERY few (we're talking single digits) imported as semi auto sales samples.
Spooky.....it's a pretty small community of collectors of Vickers' caliber.
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Templar,
Is the pistol grip wood or Bakelite? Hard to tell from the pics.
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Templar,
Is the pistol grip wood or Bakelite? Hard to tell from the pics.
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It's wood. Standard Chinese "chu" wood that's found on Chicom AK's.
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It's also interesting to note that the Type 81 magazine is not compatable with the Type 56 (AK-47). The Type 81 has a different locking lug position and a bolt hold open feature.
So.....how many millions of Type 56's did the Chinese build, only to make a new rifle in the same caliber that can't accept those magazines......
Things that make you go hmmmmm.
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My understanding is the Type 81 can use the AK mags(but the hold open will not activate) but the AK cannot use the Type 81 mag without changing the follower.
Is the muzzle cut for rifle grenades?
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My understanding is the Type 81 can use the AK mags(but the hold open will not activate) but the AK cannot use the Type 81 mag without changing the follower.
Is the muzzle cut for rifle grenades?
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We actually tried both Euro and Chinese AK mags and they will not lock into the receiver at all....totally unuseable.
That's a grenade launcher on the muzzle now....
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Could you dremel a mag and coax it to work?
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here's a pic showing the difference between the type 81 and type 56 magazines. The notch cut in the type 81 is what allows the bolt hold open feature
The muzzle device was designed with use of rifle launch grenades in mind.
According to most Chinese sources I've read the Type 81 widely considered more reliable and accurate than the Type 56 by the PLA
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According to most Chinese sources I've read the Type 81 widely considered more reliable and accurate than the Type 56 by the PLA
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To add a little more, the Chinese wanted an accurate and more controllable infantry rifle, in which their AK copy was not. So the type 81 came along using a short stroke system, as well as a longer receiver for a "constant recoil" effect to reduce the recoil caused by the reciprocating carrier group.
5.8mm Chinese versions also exist.
type 87
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The type 81 is supposed to have a left sided selector switch.
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Very cool! Thanks for posting this!
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Very cool thread!
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