Deputy unloads entire "gun clip" on car.

[SteyrAUG]

So how do we better weed them out before the dumbassery begins?
I've known some highly trained foul-up's.

Currently we are doing the opposite. We are creating an environment that is motivating the best LEOs to call it a day. I think we are seeing the results. I understand WHY this happened, most cops probably feel like a target since there are so many activists groups working against them. They probably do think behind every door is some "green hair psycho" waiting to kill me so they are all rolling around at Defcon 2 waiting for the "acorn to drop."

[tn1911]

Currently we are doing the opposite. We are creating an environment that is motivating the best LEOs to call it a day. I think we are seeing the results. I understand WHY this happened, most cops probably feel like a target since there are so many activists groups working against them. They probably do think behind every door is some "green hair psycho" waiting to kill me so they are all rolling around at Defcon 2 waiting for the "acorn to drop."

It felt to me that it was all heading south in the early 2010’s when I got out. The political atmosphere was changing for the bad and the lack of quality for newbie’s coming out of the academy into FTO was really starting to show.

[Averageman]

Currently we are doing the opposite. We are creating an environment that is motivating the best LEOs to call it a day. I think we are seeing the results. I understand WHY this happened, most cops probably feel like a target since there are so many activists groups working against them. They probably do think behind every door is some "green hair psycho" waiting to kill me so they are all rolling around at Defcon 2 waiting for the "acorn to drop."

Thus we end up with the "Snake eating it's Tail" Law Enforcement situation we are in now.
I live in a small rural area in Central Texas where old Cowboys still eat breakfast in the same Diner they did in 1964. So I would guess the pay for Law Enforcement is modest. So, it would seem Cops are either retiring here or cutting their teeth at their first job.

I have had zero negative interaction with United States Law Enforcement in my life. Probobly have had 3 tickets in my 50 years of driving on the road.
I don't drink anymore, so I'm not a DWI risk and I'm a bit of a homebody.
But
Watching this stuff and a little research shows, I'm probobly in the minority.

I don't understand it and I dont understand it from both sides I have seen azzholes get really beligerant before a Cop was finally pushed too far and I see stories like this.

Most of this can be laid at the feet of Obama.

[jsbhike]

And perhaps at the very root of..

"Deprivation of rights that results in death or includes kidnapping(which is really what an unlawful arrest is) is supposed to have some very stiff penalties for all parties involved. And neither of those are limited to just cops."

They just don't understand that they will be held liable for their actions?
Because I think they're confused to the point of QI. You should be more responcable for your actions and if your behavior can't be put in check, you're fired, and if you really screw the pooch, you're going to prison.
Because a lot of these guys think and badge makes them immune from being held to a professional standard.
Perhaps we need some sort "Scared Straight" program for Cops where they go into prison and talk to some former Law Enforcement about how they got there by abusing peoples rights and/or being a crooked Cop?

Depending on the area, a cop getting the idea they will not be held criminally liable when committing crimes is more fact than fantasy. There may be a sliding scale based on the severity of the crime committed and/or who the crime was committed against, but obviously the lack of enforcement is known.

Lawsuits against public officials who violate rights came about during reconstruction. Qualified Immunity came along about 100 years later via court case with the notion public officials couldn't be held liable in a civil case unless rights violated were "clearly established".

An example of "not clearly established" rights violations include stealing cash during a search.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...019-09-04.html

[jsbhike]

Thus we end up with the "Snake eating it's Tail" Law Enforcement situation we are in now.
I live in a small rural area in Central Texas where old Cowboys still eat breakfast in the same Diner they did in 1964. So I would guess the pay for Law Enforcement is modest. So, it would seem Cops are either retiring here or cutting their teeth at their first job.

I have had zero negative interaction with United States Law Enforcement in my life. Probobly have had 3 tickets in my 50 years of driving on the road.
I don't drink anymore, so I'm not a DWI risk and I'm a bit of a homebody.
But
Watching this stuff and a little research shows, I'm probobly in the minority.

I don't understand it and I dont understand it from both sides I have seen azzholes get really beligerant before a Cop was finally pushed too far and I see stories like this.

Most of this can be laid at the feet of Obama.

It was a problem well before Obama. An old example was Dallas PD using Russian roulette as an interrogation technique with no negative consequences with the exception of this one who executed a 12 year and got a wrist slap.


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...rrell-lee-cain
Cell phones with video recording capability and YouTube really came in to existence during Obama's regime, while in the past most of the incidents recorded for posterity would have previously been dismissed as lies

[glocktogo]

Thus we end up with the "Snake eating it's Tail" Law Enforcement situation we are in now.
I live in a small rural area in Central Texas where old Cowboys still eat breakfast in the same Diner they did in 1964. So I would guess the pay for Law Enforcement is modest. So, it would seem Cops are either retiring here or cutting their teeth at their first job.

I have had zero negative interaction with United States Law Enforcement in my life. Probobly have had 3 tickets in my 50 years of driving on the road.
I don't drink anymore, so I'm not a DWI risk and I'm a bit of a homebody.
But
Watching this stuff and a little research shows, I'm probobly in the minority.

I don't understand it and I dont understand it from both sides I have seen azzholes get really beligerant before a Cop was finally pushed too far and I see stories like this.

Most of this can be laid at the feet of Obama.

I've had numerous LE interactions over the decades and most were positive. Of the handful that weren't, I avoided escalation by being completely subservient and non-threatening. I'm a big boy and can handle being talked down to by an authority figure, even if I didn't deserve it. My line has always been 'give me the ass-chewing or give me the penalty, but not both'. So far that's worked. Every time I've contacted LE management, it was to offer praise for how good LEO's have dealt with me and my family, and I've done that several times. I do this because as much as we critique bad LEO behavior, we should reinforce the good behavior when we see it.

[tommyrott]

When I was growing up in NW Arkansas there were decent cops, a few really good cops and the rest were willing to just shoot you for blinking and this was in the late 60's and 70's

[jsbhike]

I've had numerous LE interactions over the decades and most were positive. Of the handful that weren't, I avoided escalation by being completely subservient and non-threatening. I'm a big boy and can handle being talked down to by an authority figure, even if I didn't deserve it.

Playing along doesn't guarantee happiness either.

[Lacos]

Here’s a cop that takes his job seriously or at least he used to


https://boingboing.net/2024/05/13/na...rank-clip.html

[Averageman]

Playing along doesn't guarantee happiness either.

I hope that she gets a very good Attorney and finds him via YouTube.
And if someone would kick that Cops ass after he loses his job, I sure wouldn't cry about it.