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    QI defense shot down with style

    Apparently the judge isn't a scumbag.

    https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinion...-20621-CV0.pdf

    "For those who worry that qualified immunity can be invoked under
    absurd circumstances: Buckle up.
    Austin Thompson Hughes is a Good Samaritan. After 2:30 a.m.,
    Hughes called 911 to report a pickup truck swerving violently across a four-
    lane highway in Houston. While Hughes was on the phone with emergency
    dispatchers, the drunk driver crashed. Still on the phone with 911, Hughes
    pulled behind the drunk driver and effectuated a citizen’s arrest in
    accordance with Texas law. But when police officers arrived at the scene,

    they let the drunk driver go and then arrested Good Samaritan Hughes.
    (Seriously.) Piling insanity on irrationality, the officers then charged Hughes
    with a felony for impersonating a peace officer. Hughes spent thousands of
    dollars defending against the frivolous criminal charges before the City of
    Houston dropped them. Then Hughes brought this § 1983 suit against the
    two officers who victimized him. The district court denied qualified
    immunity. We affirm. (Obviously.)"

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    Wow, what a bizarre story.

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    Before Jolly, Engelhardt, and Oldham, Circuit Judges.
    Andrew S. Oldham, Circuit Judge:

    For those who worry that qualified immunity can be invoked under
    absurd circumstances: Buckle up.
    Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right. Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told...

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    Dude got lucky...He basically won the lottery. Had a wave function collapsed to a slightly different state he would have ended up with a "regular" judge and rotted in jail over bullshit.

    Just further proof that you should MYOB. At this point in my life, I ain't calling the cops for shit. I have enough chaos in my life without voluntarily picking up the phone to call more down upon me...
    Last edited by kerplode; 05-12-24 at 17:19.

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    I can see where a good Samaritan would follow a drunk driver until police arrive. Why would you chase a person who was running away from the vehicle? Why would you be carrying handcuffs? Why would you initiate a citizen's arrest? Once the vehicle is no longer running, there is no great danger to the general public.

    I can see where a reasonable person would reach into the vehicle and take the keys, so they can turn them over to the police when they arrive. This case smells like the good Samaritan wants to be a police officer and was out looking for someone to arrest.

    As far as making an arrest the same night for impersonating a police officer, I suspect a supervisor sent the police to the good Samaritan's residence to take him into custody. I think it would have been more prudent to have a detective investigate the good Samaritan and determine if he had a pattern of doing this sort of thing, then turn the information over to the prosecutor for review and charges if appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    I can see where a good Samaritan would follow a drunk driver until police arrive. Why would you chase a person who was running away from the vehicle? Why would you be carrying handcuffs? Why would you initiate a citizen's arrest? Once the vehicle is no longer running, there is no great danger to the general public.

    I can see where a reasonable person would reach into the vehicle and take the keys, so they can turn them over to the police when they arrive. This case smells like the good Samaritan wants to be a police officer and was out looking for someone to arrest.

    As far as making an arrest the same night for impersonating a police officer, I suspect a supervisor sent the police to the good Samaritan's residence to take him into custody. I think it would have been more prudent to have a detective investigate the good Samaritan and determine if he had a pattern of doing this sort of thing, then turn the information over to the prosecutor for review and charges if appropriate.
    We were driving home from IDPA one time and an elderly Gentleman in traffic next to us had an entire Bar set up in his car. Ice, a bottle of Scotch and what looked like tonic water, I know because I took inventory as he poured a large drinking glass full of Scotch and top it off with Ice.
    The Gentleman Driving our vehicle called 911 and we followed along safely behind his weaving vehicle until we turned off.

    I'm not going to become involved, really not my circus, not my monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    I can see where a good Samaritan would follow a drunk driver until police arrive. Why would you chase a person who was running away from the vehicle? Why would you be carrying handcuffs? Why would you initiate a citizen's arrest? Once the vehicle is no longer running, there is no great danger to the general public.

    I can see where a reasonable person would reach into the vehicle and take the keys, so they can turn them over to the police when they arrive. This case smells like the good Samaritan wants to be a police officer and was out looking for someone to arrest.

    As far as making an arrest the same night for impersonating a police officer, I suspect a supervisor sent the police to the good Samaritan's residence to take him into custody. I think it would have been more prudent to have a detective investigate the good Samaritan and determine if he had a pattern of doing this sort of thing, then turn the information over to the prosecutor for review and charges if appropriate.
    The judges cover all of why Good Samaritan Hughes did what he did.

    Hughes was not arrested that night.

    The arrest was 2 days later when the 2 officers got an arrest warrant via a bogus probable cause affidavit.

    If anything needs investigating it is if there is a relationship between the drunk driver and the 2 Houston officers who let him go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    The judges cover all of why Good Samaritan Hughes did what he did.

    Hughes was not arrested that night.

    The arrest was 2 days later when the 2 officers got an arrest warrant via a bogus probable cause affidavit.

    If anything needs investigating it is if there is a relationship between the drunk driver and the 2 Houston officers who let him go.
    Don't forget the judge who signed the bad warrant!
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Don't forget the judge who signed the bad warrant!
    Very much do plus the other leg of the 3 legged stool who was involved in the kidnapping.

    "Despite these misstatements, omissions, and inconsistencies, Garcia
    submitted the probable cause affidavit to the District Attorney’s office. The
    DA charged Hughes with felony impersonation of a public servant, and the
    262nd Criminal District Court of Harris County issued a warrant for
    Hughes’s arrest."

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    Don't forget the judge who signed the bad warrant!
    It’s been my experience that magistrate judges will sign damn near anything as long as you can keep a straight face while testifying.
    Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right. Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told...

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