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Averageman
God Father I,II, and Coda (GF III) are on a loop on one of the streaming stations and I turn it on for background noise as I tidy up.
So, I was watching and trying to understand the relationship between Hyman Roth and Michael Corleone.
As they began to negotiate for a Casino in Cuba, did Hyman Roth already know the gig was up and the rebels would win?
In other words was Roth cutting his losses by selling out of Cuba at a critial time?
Why did Roth tip his hand with the in depth Moe Greene story? Didn't he at that moment accuse Michael of the murder and seem willing to forgive and forget if he brought him the two million dollars?
Why did Michael have to murder Hyman Roth?
Nobody knew who would win, which was why Roth wanted investors. Btw, Roth was based on Meyer Lansky. Roth was hoping Baptista would retain power which is why he was annoyed when Michael said they might win.
Roth was planning to murder Michael, partly in retaliation for the murder of Moe Green. Roth ordered the killing of Frank Pentangeli to make him think Michael Corleone betrayed him and weaken his position.
And yeah the whole "it was only business" song and dance was because he wanted Michael to invest in the casinos. He then planned to kill him.
Michael had Roth murdered because Roth betrayed him and was never gonna stop trying to kill him.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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