What single AR round hits like 4 .36 caliber pellets @1225 fps?
That's a .410 by the way, you know a little kids gun.
What single AR round hits like 4 .36 caliber pellets @1225 fps?
That's a .410 by the way, you know a little kids gun.
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I willing to my 458 Socom up against a 410, no problem.
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Oh I agree the 458 Socum and 450 Bushmaster are thumpers. But I'm guessing the vast majority of people who use ARs for HD are using .223/5.56.
Does any ballistics expert here think that there is any such round that can stop an intruder faster with one single shot than a .410 with 000 buck at very close range like HD?
I just don't see it. But I am not an expert.
Last edited by Harpoon; 01-06-24 at 08:22.
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I don’t plan on just firing one round during a defense scenario. I like shotguns and I agree that a close range hit with a defense shotgun load is likely catastrophic. To me the problem is the shotgun takes much more training to run, and very few people can run a Bill drill with a shotgun as fast as a carbine.
I’m not against a shotgun for personal defense, but I would suspect most of us have far more rounds thru ARs than shotguns, and if I have to get in a close range gunfight at night I want my most familiar weapon in my hand. That said, I think if you make good hits with a 5.56, .300 AAC, or any buckshot load you’ll likely turn any threat room temperature.
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Why are we talking about a single round? Are we limited to single shot break actions or did you forget to load a mag into your AR?
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Well lets break it down, we know pistols suck at stopping people mostly because they lack any temporary stretch cavity that rifle velocity rounds produce. If you hit someone 4 times with basically a 9mm diameter projectile would that be considered better than a good solid hit with a rifle projectile?
There are many such cases of bad guys absorbing multiple pistol rounds until someone with a rifle puts an ends to a shenanigans.
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