MK12 optics discussion

[grizzman]

If you dial for elevation a Coniferous tree reticle is not needed. If you hold for elevation and windage, good luck without one at more than 600 yards in windy conditions.

[MegademiC]

If you dial for elevation a Coniferous tree reticle is not needed. If you hold for elevation and windage, good luck without one at more than 600 yards in windy conditions.

Yeah. I do both, depending on the situation. The biggest benefit is for followup shots and self-spotting.

The credo looks super interesting. I can swing 3oz cause its still 10oz lighter than my current scope.

[grizzman]

I was interested enough in the Credo HX to buy the 2.5-15 x 42mm model. I've only begun using it for load development, but like it enough that if I were to find another for the same price I'd probably buy it.

The glass is good, knobs are good (feedback is not great, but good enough), durability should be good, reticle is basic but functional, return to zero works well, etc. I've really got nothing bad to say about it.

[BobinNC]

I was interested enough in the Credo HX to buy the 2.5-15 x 42mm model. I've only begun using it for load development, but like it enough that if I were to find another for the same price I'd probably buy it.

The glass is good, knobs are good (feedback is not great, but good enough), durability should be good, reticle is basic but functional, return to zero works well, etc. I've really got nothing bad to say about it.

The only thing bad about it is that's it's a Second Focal Plane scope. That design was state of the art in 2005. If you wanted a SFP scope you could have bought a Vortex Razor HD LHT and saved 3.5 oz's....

[grizzman]

For use on a precision rifle, I prefer FFP, but on a general purpose/hunting rifle I don't. The Trijicon currently lives on a 6.5 Grendel, but it'll likely get moved to a 6.5 CM light-ish weight bolt gun (after I buy said gun).

I've checked out the Razor HD LHT, but that 3.5 oz reduction comes with a price of $500. I don't choose optics based on one specification, like weight.

It’s definitely not one I’d choose for a MK12.

[Gargoyle]

I demoed the Tenmile line. Everything was sexy AF about them, except the parallax was too exacting to lock in, and were mushy.

[Gargoyle]

If you dial for elevation a Coniferous tree reticle is not needed. If you hold for elevation and windage good luck without one at more than 600 yards[/B] in windy conditions.

More than 600yds I'm not shooting at with a 5.56.

Holding for both elevation and wind, that's an obvious recipe for disaster. Gotta obviously lock in elevation, hold only for wind. Getting back to my preferred HTMR reticle use.

[MegademiC]

More than 600yds I'm not shooting at with a 5.56.

Holding for both elevation and wind, that's an obvious recipe for disaster. Gotta obviously lock in elevation, hold only for wind. Getting back to my preferred HTMR reticle use.

One thing to consider is, for example, 3 targets at 500, 600 and 700 yards. You can dial for 500, then hold the difference for the other 2 and get quicker hits on all 3.

[Gargoyle]

One thing to consider is, for example, 3 targets at 500, 600 and 700 yards. You can dial for 500, then hold the difference for the other 2 and get quicker hits on all 3.

Damn straight!

[georgeib]

One thing to consider is, for example, 3 targets at 500, 600 and 700 yards. You can dial for 500, then hold the difference for the other 2 and get quicker hits on all 3.

I've done that with a 400 yard zero. Was able to make quick hits from 100 to 700, all known distances and holds with no wind.