Larry Vickers and the Centurion Arms SPR

[adh]

just curious if the builder sees the ARMS mounts as GTG as there had been so much talk on TOS that there were now some much better options that were more durable (i.e. Larue).

[grinch]

just curious if the builder sees the ARMS mounts as GTG as there had been so much talk on TOS that there were now some much better options that were more durable (i.e. Larue).

I'm not a fan of the ARMS rings though I did not have a problem with mine but I never used the "QD" capacity I really see no need on a rifle like this except if the scope fails and need to get to your BUIS. The latest rifles actually do not have QD rings they use standard night force scope rings.

[adh]

Monty will build any set up you want to use, besides, you would most likely buy just the upper assembly, the optic is usually buyer's option.

I assumed as much, like I said just curious about the opinion on the ARMS QD rings because I have a set that have been sitting in the safe for well over a year

I'm not a fan of the ARMS rings though I did not have a problem with mine but I never used the "QD" capacity I really see no need on a rifle like this except if the scope fails and need to get to your BUIS. The latest rifles actually do not have QD rings they use standard night force scope rings.

Good point...and regarding the use of standard rings, this is the fist I heard that...interesting.

[Larry Vickers]

Thanx Tim for posting this for me - next let me add a couple thoughts to this discussion;

Everyone please understand that the Mk12 SPR as we know it today was originally designed years ago and by current standards some of the components and modfications are not state of the art - such as the set screw gas block. Manty is truly an SME on the SPR and knows the gun inside and out - he can build you a completely authentic as issued SPR or one that features upgrades in build specs as well as parts used - for my collection I wanted one that was to MILSPEC and that is what I got.

In addition Monty has sourced parts that are extremely difficult to get in order to build an exact replica - the barrel for instance is only available to Crane and to Monty ; you can get a barrel that looks the same in contour but to get the exact same barrel as the Mk12 has you have to get it from Monty - that is one of the reasons why it took him so long to come to market with this - he wanted to make sure he had his parts sourced out completely

The Mk12 SPR is an historically significant rifle as it is the FIRST custom built AR style weapon that is issued to the US Military - and specifically SOCOM (the US Army's DMR would be the other ). That reason alone makes it worth having but getting one from an end user that has used SPR's in the field is icing on the cake.

Hope this helps - I will say it again ; if you want one don't wait as the list will not get shorter

be safe

LAV

[Voodoochild]

Well I guess I have found my Christmas present to myself.

[FR0GMAN]

the barrel for instance is only available to Crane and to Monty ; you can get a barrel that looks the same in contour but to get the exact same barrel as the Mk12 has you have to get it from Monty

Would this be the CLE SPR barrel by frank white?

[Rana]

Would this be the CLE SPR barrel by frank white?

NO. This is a Douglas barrel by someone who doesn't wish to be named as the MK12 barrel "guy." I don't think it is a huge secret but he just doesn't want the "notoriety" and offers it only to ONE SOF member outside of the Crane Supply.

[Rana]

just curious if the builder sees the ARMS mounts as GTG as there had been so much talk on TOS that there were now some much better options that were more durable (i.e. Larue).

FWIW my unit deployed with the Larue SPR mounts on our issued MK12's last go around, as well as a lot of other Larue products provided to us by one of the industries biggest Patriots- Mr. Mark Larue himself.