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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Will my HK AK as I call my PTR 32 with 8 inch barrel goes about 2200 fps, but with a bullet twice the weight. So I am happy with 2200 fps, and know it will hurt going in if I shoot someone.

    I don't know of any PCC that uses .357magnum that uses magazines.

    Also that .357 mag rifle would not fit into a small backpack that would be easy to carry and covert because it doesn't look gun bag.

    I always go back to mission.

    Mission for this concept gun is two fold. First a gun that could be carried covertly to synagogue and still deliver rifle velocity for a max of a 50 yard shot. Second as life moves forward I think that next spring and summer we may see riots that will make BLM stuff seem tame. The reason is the economic hardships that the lower and middle class will have to survive through.

    So again a small PCC that can deliver rifle velocity and also use pistol sized mags, beats a small rifle every day of the week. How does it beat the rifle, easier to carry pistol mags in your left front pants pocket than rifle mags. I can put 2 Glock 33 mags in my pocket and it is comfortable and hard to see. The same is not true with AR 30 round mags. The PCC also beats the rifle in reduced muzzle blast. The blast in a 7 inch AR isn't fun for me.

    Also on your .357 mag rifle, if I can carry a weapon that sized then why not my HKAK or a SBR AR with law folder?

    I am not sure my project will be successful from a logistics stand point. 357 sig PCC, aren't off the shelf items and the ETS 30 round 40 S&W mags seem like they have a ton of problems.

    I may be forced to stay with 9mm 65 grain bullet at 1900fps
    Was not considering realities of existing options and designs, just an interest in what .357 mag might offer ballistically in similar PDW barrel lengths utilizing the Leighi bullet vs .357 Sig.

    Not sure about PDW length per se, but would like to see a short semi auto .357 Mag rifle for HD and other uses. You can find lever guns all day, semi auto seems to be a unicorn.
    Last edited by WillBrink; 10-14-21 at 15:29.
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