i know this thread is old but, i am resurrecting it to thank all of you. i found it while researching just before i was about to place an order at DSGarms for a a pair of international armor corp. "titanium" levelIII plates thinking i would be somewhat protected from all basic assault/battle riffle calibers. i liked the idea of having a thin riffle plate that only weighed about 7 lbs. that i didn't have to worry about dropping. really, THANK YOU EVERYONE. if it wasn't for this forum and the people in it i would have made a potentially fatal decision.