FULL- 2008 Vickers Tactical Hackathorn/Vickers Low Light Level II Pistol/Carbine

[Heavy Metal]

For those who missed it -- beg, borrow, or steal, to convince them to run another...

Oh, we will, trust me, we are gonna make him crack! I might rob a 7/11 (Gay Porn? No! Unless a threefer with two hot lesbians count. Otherwise, that's as wrong as two boys ****ing.) to get bribe money.

I truly regret I missed LL1. If I had know this was the end of the line, I would have taken it. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.............

[NCPatrolAR]

Great class. Enjoyed being able to train with Larry and Ken again while being able to shoot with the gang of the usual suspects.


Anyone notice how Kevin seems to becoming more and more domesticated with each of these classes? ;-)

[stony275]

As per SOP, Ken and Larry did their usual outstanding job.

It was great to finally meet folks that heretofore I had only known or known of via the Internet.

I look forward to JohnWayne777's (aka TIP) AAR.

[John_Wayne777]

I look forward to JohnWayne777's (aka TIP) AAR.

Et tu, Stony?

[cfrazier]

Great class and group of guys. Only thing I didn't like was that damn computer and I took care of that.

[Eric Rice]

I've just now RTB. It was a real pleasure to shoot with all involved with this class. Truly, some of the finest people I've ever had the blessing to be around - consummate professionals all.

My most sincere and heartfelt thanks go to Paul, Rodney, Joe, Sam, Tom, Lynn, Mr. Tailor and of course Ken and LAV. If I've left anyone out, I apologize.

It was nice to see many of you again, and very nice to meet the rest. Thanks for the groceries to all that pitched in, especially Megan & Kevin.

Congrats to the winner of the Omega Rail, and the other top shooters. Thanks to all those flying the DD colors as well. Please let me know if I can do anything for you.

Stony, great to team up with you again, Brother. You were sorely missed on day 3, but Joe stepped up and would have made you proud. My new call sign is hostage slayer. "What, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy."

[Jay Cunningham]

Outstanding class in every respect - thank you Ken and LAV and all the AI's for all the instruction.

Nice to see the old faces and meet some new ones. Brian certainly has the coolest ride in North America, and Ben was a great sport despite the accusations of espionage. JW_777 (a.k.a. TIP) put up with my snoring and for that he deserves a prize.

BBQ dinner TD2 and TD3 was worth the price of admission. Thanks also to C4IGrant who paid for several meals and also was the namesake of my two man team: Team GrantHawk.

Missed Dinger and FJB.

I learned that while an amazingly versatile optic, the S&B Short Dot would not be my first choice for low light CQB. It can get the job done, however, if need be. I also decided to go back to a DG switch on my Glock to activate my X200B. A laser on a J-frame is a no-brainer, but I am beginning to wonder if I really want one on my Glock. First time I ran with a war belt and I was overall quite pleased. Lots of other lessons learned.

Kevin, your wife is a good catch!

Thanks to all involved in making this class happen for the opportunity.

[Larry Vickers]

Overall one of the best group of guys ever for a class - other than a little rain at the end of day 2 I honestly think It could not have went smoother

Looking back on the low light classes Ken and I both agree that anyone who participated witnessed history as classes such as these have never been done before - truly unique in every respect

Be safe and I will see many of you relatively soon

LAV

[ErikL]

This was a great class. my hats off to to Ken, Larry and all the AI's that made this possible. It was also a pleasure to get to train with a great group of guys, who also made this class possible. While I'm not going to give a traditional AAR of what was covered. I will give some of my observations.

-Physical fitness along with the proper state of mind are key, while we didn't do anything overly physical I can tell my diminished physical condition prevented me from performing at a level I expect of myself. Its not the gear its the guy using it after all.

-Similarly If you can't find the time to get to the range, at least get some dry firing in. I developed a case of El Snacho's and and a few other things I need to work on.

-If it can break, it will do it at the worse time. My pistol light went down in the last scenario, have a back up if you can.

-Accuracy, and shot placement are key.

-There is a limitless amount of ways you can set up your carbine regarding lights and the means in which you turn them on. Just because it works for someone else doesn't mean it will work for you.

-Larry and Templar are walking encyclopedias of firearms knowledge.

-LED lights have come along way.


Overall I took a ton away from this class, I'm fortunate to be able to attend.

Cheers.

[C4IGrant]

Great class (maybe the best ever) with an excellent group of shooters. There was no "I need to zero my gun" or "Why don't I just turn my flashlight on and leave it on" types of questions.

My partner (Jay) was very good, but felt sorry for him as the entire class he was referred to as "Team GrantHawk." I guess that is better than being called "Team Single Point" or "Team Hoser."

There were many funny moments/comments from the class. Some of my favorites:

"You know he's Asian right?" EricL

"Ahh I take NV and PEQ-2 back to my great leader Kim Jong-il." Ben Wa

"Tactical Internet Personality (TIP) that's you!" LAV

"Hey D*CKHEAD, put your thumb up!" LAV

"WHITE POWER!" Lance/GrantHawk/McLovin


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