Paterno and Penn State

**scottryan** · 11-09-11, 09:52

What the hell is a 10 year old boy doing in the locker room of a D1 NCAA athletic program by himself in the first place?

Discuss...

**kartoffel** · 11-09-11, 10:14

As a PSU Alumnus here, all I can say is that I am heavily troubled by what has been revealed. Coach Paterno's whole theme in life revolves around sportsmanship and honor. Now it's starting to look like maybe Joe listened to slimeball lawyers/Trustees/perverts when he should have sucked it up and done the right thing.

... and I was really looking forward to the game with Nebraska this weekend, too! Hopefully the team can suck it up and play on. Remember the 1994 season when #1 ranked Nebraska and #2 raked PSU never got to play each other that year? THAT's a match I'd like to have seen. At least we won the Rose Bowl that year

**montanadave** · 11-09-11, 10:27

Penn State officials, Paterno included, put the welfare of their precious (and HUGELY profitable) football program ahead of the welfare of children who were being serially groomed and victimized by a child molester.

Read the grand jury transcripts and try not to gag. (http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf)

The fact that these guys knew what they knew when they knew it, and failed to take action which would have prevented Sandusky from sexually abusing another kid is simply inexcusable. They all bear some accountability.

No sympathy for Paterno. He failed to protect innocent kids being abused by a monster. Out of self-interest and self-preservation. Whatever his accomplishments as a coach, a leader, and a mentor, they are forever diminished by this act of moral cowardice.

**Cincinnatus** · 11-09-11, 10:31

Originally Posted by montanadave

Penn State officials, Paterno included, put the welfare of their precious (and HUGELY profitable) football program ahead of the welfare of children who were being serially groomed and victimized by a child molester.

Read the grand jury transcripts and try not to gag. (http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf)

The fact that these guys knew what they knew when they knew it, and failed to take action which would have prevented Sandusky from sexually abusing another kid is simply inexcusable. They all bear some accountability.

No sympathy for Paterno. He failed to protect innocent kids being abused by a monster. Out of self-interest and self-preservation. Whatever his accomplishments as a coach, a leader, and a mentor, are forever diminished by this act of moral cowardice.

I second this. To hell with his career and his accomplishments. All child-molesters should be dangled on rails for us to shoot at at the range.

**glocktogo** · 11-09-11, 10:36

I believe we'll be seeing Paterno in criminal court as a witness, and civil court as a defendant before this story is completed.

**kartoffel** · 11-09-11, 10:36

Originally Posted by montanadave

No sympathy for Paterno.

Agreed 110%, despite being a Penn Stater. This ****ing hurts.

**woodandsteel** · 11-09-11, 12:47

Originally Posted by montanadave

Penn State officials, Paterno included, put the welfare of their precious (and HUGELY profitable) football program ahead of the welfare of children who were being serially groomed and victimized by a child molester.

Read the grand jury transcripts and try not to gag. (http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf)

The fact that these guys knew what they knew when they knew it, and failed to take action which would have prevented Sandusky from sexually abusing another kid is simply inexcusable. They all bear some accountability.

No sympathy for Paterno. He failed to protect innocent kids being abused by a monster. Out of self-interest and self-preservation. Whatever his accomplishments as a coach, a leader, and a mentor, they are forever diminished by this act of moral cowardice.

I couldn't agree more.

I used to have the greatest respect for Paterno. But his actions in this case are inexcusible. I know that tehnically speaking he did what was required of him (taking this to the next person above him). But, when dealing with child sex abuse, I'd expect him to go above and beyond to protect the kids.

He should step down immediately. Not at the end of the season.

Originally Posted by glocktogo

I believe we'll be seeing Paterno in criminal court as a witness, and civil court as a defendant before this story is completed.

He may testify in the criminal case, against the others. However, he will not face criminal charges. The Grand Jury already cleared him.

He'll definitely be in the civil case.

**BrianS** · 11-09-11, 12:54

Originally Posted by kartoffel

As a PSU Alumnus here, all I can say is that I am heavily troubled by what has been revealed. Coach Paterno's whole theme in life revolves around sportsmanship and honor. Now it's starting to look like maybe Joe listened to slimeball lawyers/Trustees/perverts when he should have sucked it up and done the right thing.

Yeah, this is what I said when this came up in a conversation yesterday. Anybody that ever played team sports and listened to coaches make speeches about integrity, character, etc., knows how they go on about this kind of thing. Well when it came time for him to have just a shred of decency (let alone other virtues he no doubt promoted in talks to athletes over the years) he failed his test BIG TIME.

**NWPilgrim** · 11-09-11, 13:31

Originally Posted by scottryan

What the hell is a 10 year old boy doing in the locker room of a D1 NCAA athletic program by himself in the first place?

Discuss...

Where were the parents? Doesn't anybody watch their kids anymore after all the reports of abductions and rape in so many supposedly "safe" circumstances (school, church, scouts, etc)?

And how is it the guy who witnessed it happening did nothing but report it to Paterno? How about beating the living shit out of the pervert right then and there? How about calling the cops pronto and locking him up forever squared? How does someone witness a 10-yr old being raped and just "report it?!"