Be an informed consumer!

[shadow65]

Thanks Grant. Good info. Going to add it to my "Favorites List"
Dave

[Wherryj]

Wouldn't mil-spec be better described as the MINIMUM standard than lowest acceptable quality?

I thought that mil-spec meant the LOWEST acceptable quality from the lowest bidding company that the US Govt will accept for a fighting gun.

[fivefivesix]

guys i want to apologize for my comments. i was and am misinformed and the lack of me being able to put into words what im thinking makes me look and feel like an ass. i apologize to who i offended, and to grant for making ASSumptions.

[justin_247]

it sounds like someone is getting kickbacks from bcm. yeah there a great company but so is spikes

This thread is about BCM rifles and the importance of knowing what you're buying, ie, being an informed consumer. It is not a Spike's gripe thread. This has been discussed time and time again on this forum, and that discussion is over. Go and read the thread on it, and if you are unhappy with the results of that discussion you may contact the individual in question via private message.

It's people like you who have given Spike's a bad reputation to some on this forum. Please be constructive or go somewhere else.

[Failure2Stop]

I thought that mil-spec meant the LOWEST acceptable quality from the lowest bidding company that the US Govt will accept for a fighting gun.

You are missing the point.
For something to be accepted by the military it has to pass quality control inspections and tests. That requirement is not present with businesses that market directly to the civilian market, unless they choose to. The companies that are recommended are those that impose a higher standard on themselves, and it shows through performance.

it sounds like someone is getting kickbacks from bcm. yeah there a great company but so is spikes

If you are alledging that every reputable instructor, every moderator, every Indusry Professional and SME, and every high-volume shooter are shills for BCM, you need to reflect on the plausability of that accusation.

We also recommend Noveske, KAC, Colt, and others. We let people know what we see and can prove. If you think that a company/product is equal to or better than what we recommend, please step forward with your proof. We have no interest in closing businesses down, we have no grudge, we simply recommend that which works consistently to our standards. Not everyone has our standards or breadth of data, which is why there are lots of people that are completely satisfied with their Olys/BMs/DPMSs/etc.

Being a site sponsor does not save the company from criticism either. There are plenty of threads about EoTech, POF, Wilson, Lancer, etc in which Staff and Mods will recommend different products or criticize oferings from those companies. You want to know why? Because we aren't whores. We want to share our knowledge and experience with the community. We don't get paid. All we get is some miniscule amount of satisfaction and lots of angry PMs.

So take your accusations and shove them up your nose.

[boltcatch]

The companies that are recommended are those that impose a higher standard on themselves, and it shows through performance.

The real issue here isn't technical. Some people simply refuse to believe that the time and effort people like Paul at Bravo Co. put into their product will ever manifest itself. We can talk about performance all day long and they'll just rationalize or stick fingers in their ears.

[C4IGrant]

it sounds like someone is getting kickbacks from bcm. yeah there a great company but so is spikes

Please let me know who that someone is. I know it isn't us and to insinuate that Paul (owner of BCM) would do such a thing, tells me that your village is looking for you.



C4

[fivefivesix]

how do i give spikes a bad name. i own a spikes m4 and a bcm m16 clone. and if you call any manufacture that is worth a grain of salt they will produce so called tech documents. guess i pissed the fan boys off

[GermanSynergy]

Please let me know who that someone is. I know it isn't us and to insinuate that Paul (owner of BCM) would do such a thing, tells me that your village is looking for you.



C4

Grant, that made my night!

[RogerinTPA]

I thought that mil-spec meant the LOWEST acceptable quality from the lowest bidding company that the US Govt will accept for a fighting gun.

Correct.

It means the lowest bidder who can maintain the minimum QUALITY in the Technical Data Package set forth by the US Military. The TDP is the "minimum" specifications they will accept. The requirement will state "Meet or exceed" a certain specification.