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    That's a tall rail. Would I be correct in assuming it's the same height as the H&K 416 rail?

    Comment/Observation aside, that's a very nice looking gun from an outfit I keep hearing good things about. Will the TD-415 will be more reasonably priced than its Germanic cousin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    That's a tall rail. Would I be correct in assuming it's the same height as the H&K 416 rail?

    Comment/Observation aside, that's a very nice looking gun from an outfit I keep hearing good things about. Will the TD-415 will be more reasonably priced than its Germanic cousin?


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    The rail height is like the HK416, and the upper is like $1250 making it super affordable. compared to the $5000 HK416 upper

    Here's an actual HK416 piston/BCG photo so people can see the similarities



    And the HK MR556 which is rumored to be $3500 when it goes for sale in 2010. Notice the rail height

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    Great pics variablebinary. $1250 isnt bad at all.

    Why do so many people not like the taller rail height?

    I understand getting your optics as close to the centerline of the barrel but .250 or so should actually help with comfort while looking through your glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
    The rail height is like the HK416, and the upper is like $1250 making it super affordable. compared to the $5000 HK416 upper

    Here's an actual HK416 piston/BCG photo so people can see the similarities



    And the HK MR556 which is rumored to be $3500 when it goes for sale in 2010. Notice the rail height


    What's up w/the rail height? Can't see any diff.

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    I wonder if there will be any legal actions from HK on this clone? Or if that is even a possibility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky130 View Post
    I wonder if there will be any legal actions from HK on this clone? Or if that is even a possibility?

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    Who knows. Who hasn't HK sued lately. They have even gone after airsoft guns.

    I'm not a lawyer, nor do I follow such things, but I think HK is in for a rocky road if this is their solution for handling the competition.

    The irony is Colt sued HK for trade dress and failed, and AFAIK, HK hasnt managed to shut anyone down with similar suits
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    Here are the HK 416 gas rings I spoke about on the piston head which are not present on the Titan Defense TD-415



    And the firing pin safety notch also NOT present on the Titan defense model

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    Very interesting...

    I will be watching how it does, once it gets around a bit.

    Edit: BTW, thanks for the write up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by variablebinary View Post
    And the HK MR556 which is rumored to be $3500 when it goes for sale in 2010. Notice the rail height
    And I doubt (very seriously doubt) that HK will be selling an upper (or complete rifle) in 10.5" or 14.5" bbl. lengths.

    My biggest question would be how heavy is the TD upper?

    It looks pretty cool and I'm very interested to see more info, tests, etc. on it. If you haven't had any issues with your LWRC, I don't know that I'd be in a hurry to sell it. Thanks for the great post and the pics.
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    To be honest shouldn't HK sue?

    They designed and built a gun, and someone basically in large part copied it? Now if they had any patents, it would make really good sense to sue. When patents are concerned, especially on items that people largely believe are superior, that's sort of the proper thing to do in the interest of protected intellectual property.

    It looks like a good gun, you mention stiffer recoil impulse, and I heard in the other thread that the rail height is .065" taller than the already tall 416, so with those in mind, why would you be interested in swapping your LWRC for it?

    The LWRC guns, from the opinions of people I know who have them, seem to have very high regard.
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